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Vic April 23, 2014 at 10:11 pm
My comment was, in no way, promoting assisted physician suicide, Dee. I was just wondering where itRead More was legal.
Dee April 23, 2014 at 10:19 pm
I know, Vic, I wasn't implying that.
Brenda April 24, 2014 at 02:11 am
1. First RIP to this man with cancer. Horrible way to die, but he still had family and friends whoRead More cared about him and would until the end. Many of my friends have died and had family with them until their last breath, reading others messages of love to them. 2. Suicide is the most selfish act especially when you leave behind family and friends who have to DEAL WITH THAT. IF he wanted to die that bad he could easily have enough medications in his home to have overdosed. EASILY. 3. Shooting by police is the most atrocious act a person can commit to a police officer who SAVES LIVES and do not take them unless they are DRAWN ON FIRST. Once he drew is gun, BB or otherwise that look just like real guns, his death sentence was written and that is to his son who also believes it was not right they shot and killed his father. Well, it was also not right that your father did not spend every single possible moment of his life with YOU and his loved ones honey. 4. To everyone who called the police and I am sure told all different stories did ANYONE TELL the police THAT HE SUGGESTED he would die by the COPS?? Tell them that no one else was in the house, he was sitting in the garage, and to come through maybe the back door, or front door where he could not see them, and grab him from behind while one officer tried to keep him busy? Of course not. Now when you give pertinent helpful information it can drastically change the outcome of an officer rolling up to a call. If someone says, he is in the garage and he has a weapon, that pretty much sets up how its going to end right? 5. Why did anyone call the police in the first place? Was he shooting his BB gun? Or calling and telling everyone he was suicidal? Was this all relayed to the police in a coherant manner by ONE PERSON< not 5, all rattling off with the contents of that rattling going into a type written communication and voice commmunication? Cause those officers probably got spewed 5 different stories. It is terribly sad for his family and it all could have been prevented by maybe even his mother. If she had walked over there, or a neighbor. All these people who knew he just had a BB gun right? I know if he was my son, or my neighbor I would have just walked on over right? Why didnt anyone do that who he was making phone calls to all day?? He was crying out for help all that time. :/
Concerned Person April 24, 2014 at 01:43 am
LAPD OFFICERS TAMPERED WITH RECORDING GEAR. (AP 4-09-2014) Officers wear small transmitters thatRead More transmit their voices back to their car to be recorded along with the dash cam on their traffic stops. This requires a special small antenna inside the car. -------- IN ONE SOUTH LA DIVISION IT WAS FOUND THAT ABOUT 40 OF THE 80 CARS HAD THAT ANTENNA RIPPED OUT. -------- A FEW MORE WERE FOUND RIPPED OUT IN NEARBY DISTRICTS. Chief instituted equipment checklist to be filled out at the beginning and ending of each shift.
Concerned Person April 24, 2014 at 01:47 am
I AM FAVORABLY IMPRESSED WITH THE RECENTLY NEW MURRIETA POLICE CHIEF, SEAN HADDEN. I THINK HE WILLRead More DO A LOT OF GOOD THINGS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND MURRIETA, AND I WISH HIM WELL.
Justice For All April 24, 2014 at 02:13 am
@Concerned Person -- Police work consists of two speeds, slow and terrifying.Read More ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When time is on the cops side, they may have the luxury of falling back, developing tactics, deploying SWAT or specially trained crisis negotiators. Unfortunately, the suspect almost always drives the pace of events. And, I would surmise from the information provided, that the conditions at the scene unfolded very rapidly, giving little chance for officers to negotiate with this person. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's a tragedy, but this guy had already chosen his path long before the cops ever arrived. Even if the officers had known in advance that he intended to draw fire upon himself, there wouldn't have been any change in the outcome. The victim forced the officers to take the action that they did. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You need to accept that these are the FACTS and there are going to be certain circumstances that are simply beyond the control of anyone. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No amount of additional police training could have altered the situation. Society is filled with the mentally ill and cops engage them practically on a daily basis. Unfortunately, some will cross the line and threaten the safety of others. On those occasions they will often die. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You should also check your facts about the level of special training that officers receive for dealing with the mentally ill. The California DOJ sets training standards for all police in the state. Most officers receive up to 80 hours of training in the academy, and an additional 120 hours of active training in dealing with the mentally ill.
Temecula-area California Highway Patrol officers participated in an "Every 15 Minutes" program in April 2013. Patch file photo.
Marc C April 22, 2014 at 02:16 pm
One life saved makes it all worth while.
Concerned Person April 23, 2014 at 02:35 am
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. I AM GLAD TO SEE IT BEING DONE THIS WAY. It should be repeated every year.Read More In addition they should have classroom work on driving safely, and see the videos in class ALSO, not instead of. Different persons learn in different ways.
Concerned Person April 23, 2014 at 02:46 am
OF COURSE STUDENTS SHOULD BE TAUGHT ABOUT THE PROBLEMS CAUSED BY DRIVING IMPAIRED WITH ALCOHOL ORRead More DRUGS, AND WARNED AGAINST DRIVING TIRED, TEXTING WHILE DRIVING, DRAG RACING, AND SHOWING OFF. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some persons have said they should just teach reading, writing, and math in high school and not drivers ed. Persons that say that are very wrong. Many of them are already driving and nearly all of the rest will be driving soon. --------- Some of the students will be trying out beer soon if not already, and maybe even putting social pressure on others saying "get drunk, its fun". Dangers of social drinking should indeed be taught in high school.
Photos released by the Riverside County Sheriff's Department.
spike April 22, 2014 at 08:58 am
Still dont understand why this is illegal.
Steve April 22, 2014 at 11:49 am
A lot of men that visit prostitutes aren't really paying for the sex, they are paying for the womanRead More to go away after it's over.
Steve April 22, 2014 at 11:56 am
Jodi Arias didn't like that kind of treatment.
Police tape blocks off the Camelot Retirement Community on West Oakland Avenue.  Screenshot via CBS 2 LA.
Psychic One April 21, 2014 at 04:48 pm
Dee let me know what you think about the books. They were a great help to me in understanding theRead More issues.
Dee April 21, 2014 at 04:51 pm
@Psychic one, Ok, I will. @SA, let me know in a couple --- few months! Lol!
Cin April 21, 2014 at 07:50 pm
Surely these kids will got o juvey and be out at 18. These boys have no morals and no humanRead More compassion. I fear to think what they will be capable of in adulthood
Andrea Michelle Cardosa's booking photo released by the Riverside County Sheriff's Department on Feb. 3, 2014.
john blackwood April 19, 2014 at 09:36 am
Brenda you idiot , Dont you realize how ignorant you sound.So regardless its okthen , These kids areRead More still minors who are still growing mentally and pphysically . For a teacher to physiologically and physically take an advantage of that is a predator. Your talking about a person who went to college git a degree and became a principal, That means she probably has a masters degree.Compared to a child who is still growing up mentally .Wow you have issues .I send my kids to learnnot to be taking as sexuall object for teachers own wants.WWeather this kid consented or not any adult knows better.These girls were probably to ashamed to say anything .Brenda once again this shows how ignorant your pist is.
ChrisG April 20, 2014 at 07:19 am
@brenda, read about the reasoning behind statutory rape laws. Also, teachers have a duty not toRead More enter into sexual relationships with students. This goes for legal college aged students but most especially for minors in jr. High and high school. These are kids for Christ's sake and she is a predator. She went after girls she knew would want and need attention and not be likely to tell a parent or school official of any improprieties.
SA April 21, 2014 at 08:37 am
I really do not think that she would mind being in a prison full of females. Put her in an all-maleRead More prison so she can be assaulted.
The couple seen in this photo are believed to have used a credit card taken from the same purse which contained a grieving mother's toys that once belonged to her baby boy. Photo courtesy: Murrieta Police Department.
Dee April 19, 2014 at 01:55 pm
ChrisG, you're right, the final say is the d.a. Sometimes the d.a. Offers one last time. AfterRead More that ... Trial goes forward! KMA, the defense attorney strongly advices, but the defendant has the yea or nay. The defense attorney lets the d.a. know, and d.a. Makes the final decision.
Psychic One April 19, 2014 at 03:37 pm
Dee you too are correct . I'm afraid our fellow poster Brenda gets misinformation from crime showsRead More on TV as do many. Hopefully we will see these criminals get appropriate jail time.
SA April 21, 2014 at 08:40 am
Where are all the Liberals defending the thugs “how would they know that the victim had herRead More passed on child’s toys in her purse”? … What asses these thugs are, how about just do not be a thug…
Alexis Edmundo Garcia.  Photo courtesy: Murrieta Police Department
KMA April 22, 2014 at 04:06 pm
Threshar- sorry I am not on FB- I am a mature male hetero and I don't need to share my life. And ifRead More I was Kleiners neighbor, there would be an empty house except for the yellow police tape.
Thresher 200 April 22, 2014 at 05:08 pm
So rather than share your life on FB, you prefer to do it on the Patch?
Thresher 200 April 22, 2014 at 05:14 pm
KMA - So rather than FB you would prefer sharing your life on the Patch?
Reynaldo Rodriguez Jr. Photo/Riverside County Sheriff's Dept.
LAKE ELSINORE RESIDENT April 18, 2014 at 02:52 pm
Yep Hestrin is the next D.A. and he will get my support and vote. Thanks again for the info butRead More like I said before out of the two Hestrin is the man for me.
Ken April 18, 2014 at 05:06 pm
Hey Carlos Danger, Well your spot on descibing Obummer 1. An organism that grows, feeds, and isRead More sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host. 2. One who habitually takes advantage of the generosity of others without making any useful return.
GARY BARTON April 18, 2014 at 08:09 pm
Remember, most laws have been written and passed by lawyers. Does anyone else see a conflict ofRead More interest here?
The alleged "Luger Bandit." Credit: FBI
Justice For All April 18, 2014 at 12:29 am
@JD tippit -- Preliminary press releases almost always report the minimum amount from the bailRead More schedule. Final bail is usually adjusted after investigative reports are completed. The county D.A., or in this case the U.S. Attorney (bank robbery=federal offense), will seek enhancements base on the investigator's findings. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This explains why your friendly "sock sniffer's" original bail started at $5k, but escalated to $1M when evidence revealed that he was allegedly a serial pedophile who attempted to kidnap a young girl. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When the US attorney gets this case, there is no doubt that the multiple counts of bank robbery with a firearm will cause his bail to soar. But, I doubt that you will see that level of follow-up in the media for this case. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BTW: I don't mind explaining these things to you and others who are unfamiliar with the legal system. I just find it sad that you tend to frequently embarrass yourself on the Patch by making absurd comments before you have made any apparent effort to educate yourself. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Perhaps, if you spent just a little more time gathering some facts on topics, you could provide insightful comments instead of the misinformed remarks that you usually make. I'm sure it would draw more positive attention, rather than the hateful disdain from others that seems to follow you. ~Please accept this as constructive criticism... good luck.
Andy the Analyst April 18, 2014 at 03:50 am
J. D. Tippit (September 18, 1924 – November 22, 1963) was an American police officer with theRead More Dallas Police Department who was, according to two federal government investigations, shot and killed by 24-year-old former Marine Lee Harvey Oswald.
TVOR April 18, 2014 at 10:25 am
@ justice for all. I think you simply ask too much of the trolls on this site.
The Seal Beach Police Department served as the lead agency in an operation Wednesday morning that involved 15 police agencies spanning five counties. Patch file photo.
LAKE ELSINORE RESIDENT April 16, 2014 at 01:36 pm
Renee, please update this article as soon as you get the news.
john blackwood April 16, 2014 at 02:35 pm
Gee I feel alot safer now and how many more criminals are on the street? This whole article is aRead More joke and so are the police departments and the justice system.
KMA April 16, 2014 at 03:05 pm
John Blackwood = sour grapes- could not get hired so he rags on the police all the time.
Johnathan Schmidt's booking photo.  Courtesy: Riverside County Sheriff's Department.
Sew Good April 17, 2014 at 01:56 am
LMAO Singing karaoke??! Is this guy a walking circus act, or what? I'm sorry but the image justRead More makes me laugh and I can't stop.....!
trueconservative April 17, 2014 at 11:40 am
Would anyone hire or want to work along side of this person? I have walked into some businessesRead More where someone who looked like this worked and walked right back out again. Seems to me this guy does not make good choices in his life. If he has kids which I hope he does not I wouldn't let my kids play with his kids. Who wants to subject their kids to a man who looks scarier than a Halloween mask? Doesn't set a very presentable appearance or example for what to aspire to. I do judge on appearance and actions and this guy gets a zero.
Sew Good April 17, 2014 at 01:44 pm
Yes, true, he has a family and children and being dad of the year he tattoos their names on hisRead More face. In this case, judging the book by the cover hits the nail on the head. This guy is a skinhead, neo-Nazi, anarchist, white supremacist, hate group leader. People like that are beyond help and don't belong in society.
KMA April 15, 2014 at 03:01 pm
Jason J- nice talk- do you kiss your momma with that mouth?Also grounds for flagging- but we willRead More let Renee handle that. " At lest it is fact"Jason the word is least. # Susan- thank you for your input.
jason j April 15, 2014 at 07:16 pm
kma stands for kiss my ass
JJ Mclure April 16, 2014 at 06:39 am
beaners smelling up the place
Murrieta Dee April 18, 2014 at 12:24 pm
Well now, this creep is back in jail with bail set at 1 million this time. Caught with childRead More pornography and trying to lure a child into his vehicle. Good job Murrieta PD
liss April 18, 2014 at 07:39 pm
After extensive investigation including additional witness and victim statements, the RiversideRead More District Attorney was consulted on the case. It was determined today, April 17th, that probable cause existed to re-arrest Mr. Garcia for 664/207PC - Attempt Kidnap. In addition, several additional charges of 311.11aPC - Possession of Matter Depicting a Minor Simulating Sexual Conduct were added to the case. Police Detectives obtained an arrest warrant for Mr. Garcia's arrest for the above listed charges. That warrant was served at 1:15pm and Mr. Garcia was taken into custody without incident. He remains in jail at the Southwest Detention Center on $1 million bail. To date, 12 victims have been identified in this case.
liss April 18, 2014 at 07:40 pm
HE NEVER SHOULD OF BEEN LET GO THE FIRST TIME .
One of the suspect vehicles is described as a possible Nissan Versa.  Photo courtesy: Murrieta Police Department.
Psychic One April 15, 2014 at 12:42 am
Asking a child to get in your car when you don't know the child is a sign of a predator. So who's aRead More freak? Someone with no feet who dreams of smelly feet. You should know. Go suck on that tampon.
Dee April 15, 2014 at 04:59 am
Maybe JD has a tampon fetish.
Artemis Gordon April 15, 2014 at 11:34 am
Excellent! Now Castrate Him!
ChrisG April 13, 2014 at 08:46 am
It is crazy to allow yourself to be alone with adolescents in these types of settings. I hope theseRead More allegations are not found to be true but if they are he should never be allowed to work with children in the future. I'm sure he will be placed on a sexual preditor list after serving prison time.
Alek J Hidell April 13, 2014 at 01:42 pm
he's basically a kid himself--23.
Psychic One April 15, 2014 at 12:26 am
23 is not a kid. He's a legal adult. He should know right from wrong and having sex with a minor isRead More wrong.
KMA April 12, 2014 at 11:46 am
Scarf ace- while the primary function of the CHP is traffic enforcement and investigation in majorRead More metro areas- in remote areas they are the law enforcement. Not every city has a police force and not every county has a sheriff dept. And they are real cops- as you say- with the powers to arrest. So calling them AAA with guns just shows your mentality.
Ron Mexico April 12, 2014 at 10:12 pm
Lol scarf. Tell that to one when they pull you over for something you did wrong. They'll pullRead More their AAA card on you.
KMA April 12, 2014 at 11:19 pm
You got that right Ron.
Approximate location of shooting.  Courtesy: Google Maps
TH Resident April 11, 2014 at 11:08 am
I thought "zip it (moron)" was intended to have me stop sharing my opinion. Seemed veryRead More anti 1st amendment.
BLUESGUITAR777 April 11, 2014 at 11:11 am
It doesn't mean you actually have to listen... holy crap... are we going to do this all day? I haveRead More stuff to do.
TH Resident April 11, 2014 at 11:34 am
I feel we are becoming great friends. I'm off today, well working from home (you know taking itRead More easy).... I hope you get all your chores done. If you need anything, there is a Walmart just off RailRoad Canyon Rd. (just a mile south of the proposed site for the Mega Walmart off Central) on Grape St. I suggest going late at night or really early in the morning. ;)
http://knabe.com/issues/child-sex-trafficking
Alek J Hidell April 10, 2014 at 11:25 am
there would be no international trafficking in the US if we ended all immigration to this country,Read More legal and otherwise. We have 93 million CITIZENS unemployed/underemployed in the USA, (the world's third most populous country). the population of Mexico alone is just 118 million. think that over....
tony giron April 11, 2014 at 04:01 pm
So it's ok because god see all so those two that hurt those babys god will take care of everything.Read More So you ever deleteing me from the patch may be you should have a heart and think about those babys.because I am. And I will be the voice for that little one .
beaumontdave April 11, 2014 at 11:46 pm
I speak for God, he okay, the moon still rise, we are good, god good, fire bad, sometime, where JaneRead More and Cheetah?
Rob Turmer April 12, 2014 at 09:43 am
BD- read your comment with a mouthful of coffee. Still cleaning the computer.
"Exhibit C" from the complaint filed by PETA and the ADLF states that "...horseback riders charge at the bulls, threatening them with lassos and whipping them with ropes to force the animals to stampede."
KMA April 16, 2014 at 11:26 am
Andy- not are you all things street work but also all things bovine.
TVOR April 17, 2014 at 09:35 am
I think we should have a running of the bears and see how that goes.
KMA April 17, 2014 at 04:01 pm
Bears against bulls- that would be hairy.
KMA April 11, 2014 at 12:03 pm
Paul- that is true the key phrase is"not the first DUI offense."Most first time offendersRead More are charged with misdemeanor manslaughter. Depends on who the DA is and what kind of judge is sitting.
Lewis Smith April 21, 2014 at 11:52 am
James Robert Thrasher is the name of the man that killed Mark. He's free on bail. How is that fair??Read More Oh, and btw, this isn't his first incident.
KMA April 21, 2014 at 01:36 pm
That could not be our Thrasher 200 could it?
Tessa April 10, 2014 at 09:04 am
@keri you're more than welcome, to think about these false comments, about a deadly of a crash thisRead More was, is immature. Just be thankful that nobody was taken from us, if you have any questions, please ask, and PRAY FOR PAIGE. send your donations, please and thank (:
Shaunndra April 14, 2014 at 10:10 am
Please continue to pray for Paige and the other kids abd families that were affected by thisRead More accident. If you can please help by donating to help with Paige's hospital bills her family would greatly appreciate the help. She is still in the hospital and she will have a very tuff and expensive road ahead of her. Thank you for your thoughts, prayers and donations. Can you please share this website on any social media you belong to. Thank you again. http://www.gofundme.com/85q68w
Mike April 14, 2014 at 04:37 pm
Jeff Kleiner, you are a classic example of nobody dumber than the American voter. Thoughts andRead More prayers for these kids and their families.
KMA April 8, 2014 at 01:30 pm
Ashley- well hopefully the victim has cancelled her cards. If not, she should. And a clerk at a stopRead More and rob is not going to cooperated with a private citizen on id'ing a customer. That is a privacy violation. If the PD asks, that is different. While the store clerks are supposed to verify names on cards with ID, if it is less that $50, most don't.
trueconservative April 9, 2014 at 08:53 am
It is amazing how many of these people come from outside the community. My daughter works retailRead More and when they feel that someone is shady they try to see some form of ID to see where the people are coming from. It is amazing how many are from Orange County, San Diego County and the Los Angeles County area? I guess they feel they will be harder to find if someone is looking for them. When I read local arrest reports a lot of the criminals are from out of the area. I certainly will watch for them.
CB April 15, 2014 at 01:10 am
AND JUSTICE FOR ALL- if they used a food stamp card, they would have to have used a PIN for it. IfRead More you havent already done so, contact PD and let them know which Circle K it was at, date & time, and that they used EBT. then they can look into their system who used an EBT card around that time and find them! Although i feel like the toys will likely not be found by now, these people still need to be caught.
The scene at Global Captive Breeders in Lake Elsinore, December 2012. Courtesy photo.
KMA April 7, 2014 at 02:52 pm
Belle- you take care- I know we had our differences before, but I do have a heart and wish you well.
Dee April 7, 2014 at 03:37 pm
She'll be back. I hope. I can be such a dumbass sometimes.
Rat Fink April 10, 2014 at 08:03 am
Yesterday, April 9, around 5pm, I was heading north on Grand Ave by Butterfield school in LakelandRead More Village. There were at least 10 sheriff cruisers in front of and down the driveway of a privet residence. Anybody know what that was about?