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School Board to Vote on Increased Class Sizes

The proposed class size increases would affect students in kindergarten through eighth grade in the Murrieta Valley Unified School District.

The public is invited to attend an April 26 hearing about potential increased class sizes in the Murrieta Valley Unified School District.

The class size increases would affect students in grades kindergarten through eighth grade, said District Spokesperson Karen Parris, in a news release.

"The class-size penalty waivers are sought to help the district protect the instructional integrity of their educational program in light of the current statewide budget crisis and the reduced revenue received by the district," Parris said, noting the district with district teachers that allows for the increase in class sizes.

For kindergarten, the waiver seeks to increase the district-wide average of students per full time teacher from the current 31 to 33 with no class exceeding 33, Parris said.

In grades first through third, the waiver would increase the district-wide average of students per full time teacher from the current 30 to 32 with no class exceeding 32, Parris said.

For grades fourth through eighth, the waiver would result in a district-wide average of students per full time teacher from the current 29.9 to 35 students, she said.

The hearing will take place as part of a at 7 p.m. April 26 at the District Support Center, 41870 McAlby Court.

Following the hearing, trustees will vote on the district’s proposal to seek the waiver from the California Department of Education.

"Education Code 41376 and 41378 places restrictions on maximum class sizes in grades K through 8," Parris said. "The penalty for exceeding Education Code limits on class sizes results in a loss of all revenue limit funding for each student over the limit."

The requested waiver would forego those penalties, and would run from July 1 through June 30, 2014. In 2010, the district received a waiver to increase class sizes for the 2010-2011 and 2011-2012 school years.

Dog April 18, 2012 at 02:13 PM
Well, they have to make room somehow for all the illegal alien children flooding the system...
Galactic Cannibal April 18, 2012 at 03:01 PM
Here we go again screwing our kids. Why don't you State Morons just increase the classes to 53 students. Then you can keep your fat pay checks and pensions intact. What is so right with 33 kids in one class.? Nothing,.. As I said its all about screwing the kids. And to you parents I say why don't you step up to the plate and contribute cash that would cut class size to18 kids per class. You kidding me !!! Oh no we cannot do that, because its a public school system and its free. Anyway we parents are too cheap to pay for our kids educational well being. But we love to complain The strength of any country depends on the quality and level of its children's education . And not its guns and bullets. We spend $billions and billions on the guns and bullets but peanuts on educating our children. Is this a component of " The American Dream"...sounds to me more like 'The American Nightmare". Sad sad sad.
Megan R. April 18, 2012 at 03:58 PM
What is wrong with large class size? The teachers have college degrees upward to Masters. Are you parents telling me you are doubting the teachers ability to teacher 3 tables with a group of 12 at each table? I have been in the classrooms, IF the teacher is a QUALIFIED teacher and has the educational background, they should be able to handle up to 50 kids. Please, there are given all the State Standard teacher books and workbooks, they can EASILY weed out the different levels of kids and each level and multi-task. IF THEY ARE QUALIFED AND ARE DOING WHAT THEY WENT TO COLLEGE TO LEARN!!!!!!!!!!!!
Teddi Norlin April 18, 2012 at 05:23 PM
Unless you're living in a dream world, we do pay for our schools....its called TAXES! The problem isn't the amount of money we're paying. The problem is these idiot politicians that can't balance anything! I bet if their paychecks were affected, we'd see a much better school system!
Teddi Norlin April 18, 2012 at 05:26 PM
I hope you're kidding, Megan R. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of in my life! I can't believe you think 50 is an appropriate class size for children this age. For college students? Absolutely! Not for young children who typically need more individualized attention. I have 6 kids and have volunteered in many classrooms. Increasing the class size is the worst idea! How about we force the politicians to put money towards the important things in our state instead of in their wallets?
hporto April 18, 2012 at 06:37 PM
Teddi, I completely agree. Megan R., have you ever tried to control 50 kids at once and keep their attention enough to actually teach them something? The level of the teachers' education has nothing to do with it. How much can they possibly squeeze this lemon? They've already laid off several teacher, reduced the school year by a few days, and now this? What are our tax dollars paying for?
Nancy April 18, 2012 at 07:00 PM
Are you kidding me Dog?? This isn't San Diego County, this is Murrieta. I'm not saying there aren't illegal aliens in Murrieta but come on I don't see this happening here and I've been here 13 years. There is not that population "flooding" our school district.
Nancy April 18, 2012 at 07:17 PM
I agree with Teddi and hporto. It's about the level of education our kids receive. How can a teacher with the best classroom management skills reach all those children, especially those who may be below or average in their grades and need that extra attention? Our kids need more educational minutes not less. Shortening the school year a week and going back on Aug 21st doesn't help. I mean how much time off do we need? We need to be better preparing our kids, education should be the last thing to be cut. I get the budget cuts but it still doesn't sit well with me and I would be willing to pay extra $$ if it would make a difference because my kids are worth it. The classes are filled to the brim right now as it is.
Rob April 18, 2012 at 07:24 PM
1) Stop proving FREE education to ILLEGAL Aliens. 2) Stop paying 37% of city Employees over $100K 3) Stop getting strong-armed by the unions, ALL of them. 4) Support a voucher program. 5) Stop building low-income house. 6) RECALL THE CITY COUNCIL. 8 people with PENSIONS over $100K/year... not salaries....... PENSIONS http://www.fixpensionsfirst.com/calpers-database/?first_name=&last_name=&employer=MURRIETA http://www.fixpensionsfirst.com/calpers-database/?first_name=&last_name=&employer=MURRIETA+FPD WAKE UP MURRIETA! WE have City of Bell part II going on. The biggest crook in Murrieta was the last police Chief!!!!!!!!!! If you want money for the kids, STOP paying crazy salaries to Clerks, Cops, Librarians (over 100K) etc. It is YOUR money and YOUR apathy that allows the kids NOT to get what they need. " The kids pay again" they, the public sector unions and elected officials, keep the kids on the placards because they know the poor (who do not pay) and the families will vote for MORE taxes. Trouble is, as the past shows, it never reaches the kids. WAKE UP!
Gina April 18, 2012 at 09:02 PM
You are an idiot.
Gina April 18, 2012 at 09:04 PM
You are an idiot. I pay a crap load of taxes for education of my kids... not to mention all the supplies, time, and money I donate each year. If you think it's the fault of the parents you are mistaken.
Baller April 18, 2012 at 11:10 PM
Maintaining the integrity of the lesson as well as the attention of a K-5 student is hard enough with 28 kids. The whole point of "no child left behind" is to make sure they ALL get it....how in the HECK do you make sure they all get it when there are too many kids in the class at different levels? They are taught to present information in college, unfortunately the part they have to learn through actual classroom experience is how to apply that to the group of kids that they are working with which changes each school year. They have to do all this for SUBSTANDARD pay. We pay our teachers less than many of the garbage collectors which is pathetic!!!!!!
baller April 18, 2012 at 11:10 PM
Maintaining the integrity of the lesson as well as the attention of a K-5 student is hard enough with 28 kids. The whole point of "no child left behind" is to make sure they ALL get it....how in the HECK do you make sure they all get it when there are too many kids in the class at different levels? They are taught to present information in college, unfortunately the part they have to learn through actual classroom experience is how to apply that to the group of kids that they are working with which changes each school year. They have to do all this for SUBSTANDARD pay. We pay our teachers less than many of the garbage collectors which is pathetic!!!!!!
Kristian D. April 19, 2012 at 03:32 AM
They may be qualified to talk to 3 tables of 12 children, explain a lesson. Handling them, i assume you mean make sure they get out alive at the end of the day.. Yes, but when 20 kids have a different question then what? Our childrens questions arent able to be answered. there isnt enough time for a teacher to talk individually to 36 children. If youre idea of a Qualified teacher is someone to lump children in a group based on their level, your mindset is what has our children in jeopardy. That is not a good teacher. its someone who doesnt want to take the time to Educate our children. Its someone who wants to push them through to the next level.
Right is Right April 19, 2012 at 06:17 AM
ha ha ha.... Megan R..... What are you qualified to do? Since when does my Masters Degree in Education qualify me to control/teach 50 seven year old children with 100 different needs all at once? And, please tell me where you will find a classroom that you can fit 3 tables of 12 seven year olds...that will be able to hear and see the lessons? And, please tell me...which classrooms have you been in? You are clearly uninformed, you are obviously not a parent otherwise you would understand that teachers do not "weed out", they differentiate curriculum in order to meet the needs of the multi-levels of students in their classroom. Perhaps you should take up politics.
people April 19, 2012 at 08:35 PM
wow , WHAT KIND OF FUTURE ARE WE HEADED FOR ? I BLAME OUR OWN GONERNMENT FOR THE SUFFERING MY CHILDREN AND MY CHILDRENS CHILDREN WILL HAVE TO ENDURE. YOU KNOW THIS KIND OF B.S. WAS NOT WHAT THIS COUNTRY WAS BUILT ON.. IT'S VERY CLEAR TO ME NO ONE WANTS TO COME RIGHT OUT AND DEAL WITH THE REAL ISSUES WE AS AMERICANS ARE AND WILL ALWAYS BE UP AGAINST.. I HAVE TO GO AND HUG MY KIDS SEE YA..
people April 20, 2012 at 04:14 PM
well stated murrieta girl..
Gina April 20, 2012 at 09:27 PM
just calling it like I see it, Steve.

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