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VIDEO: News Conference Held in Support of Red-Light Cameras

In a news conference held Tuesday, elected officials in Murrieta urged a no vote on Measure N, the red-light camera initiative.

Supporters of Murrieta's red-light cameras held a news conference Tuesday at Murrieta Hot Springs and Whitewood roads.

Those who spoke included Murrieta Mayor Pro Tem Rick Gibbs, Councilman Alan Long, Councilman Randon Lane, former Murrieta Public Safety Traffic Commissioners Steve Flynn and Robert DeCubellis, and City Council Candidate Joel Phillips.

They urged a no vote on Measure N, an initiative on the Nov. 6 ballot that seeks to ban the cameras from the city.

Officials claimed red-light violations dropped from 3,150 per month in 2005 to 85 per month in 2011 after the installation of the cameras.

They said the cameras save lives, pointing out that two senior citizens were killed in a crash last weekend at a Temecula intersection.

The Republican October 24, 2012 at 09:29 PM
This is a red light camera tax not a fine. We cannot even defend ourselves in court. We need to get rid of it!
Diana Serafin October 24, 2012 at 10:19 PM
Lawmakers in Sacramento are working a bill right now to extend the yellow lights. the bill has a lot of support too. They know it makes the intersections safer!
The Republican October 24, 2012 at 10:35 PM
Citizen thank you for going exactly where I wanted you to. Those other cameras you mentioned while used as "evidence" still allow for the presumption of innocence before proven guilty. With red light camera tickets you are guilty and have to prove innocence. You don't believe me? I challenge you to bring forward people that have gone to court for red light camera tickets. You will soon see that the County of Riverside has them as guilty before they step in court. If you wonder why there is outrage over cameras it is because you have not dealt with the $500 railroad job that is suppose to be justice.
David Shisler October 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM
Why not lengthen the yellow light, have the red light four way pause, and keep the cameras to catch the real idiots that we have driving around here.
citizen October 24, 2012 at 10:47 PM
Republican: What are you talking about? "You people"? The other cameras I indicated are also used to prosecute violators of law (please see Patch's current article about the bank robber today- video footage that will be used by police), so the comparison is not "moronic". What is moronic, however, is people's closed minded views regarding issues. You ARE innocent until proven guilty, although the video proves your guilt. You have the right to face your accuser- The police department reviews the video and selects which violators are issued citations based on their observations of the video. You appear in court with the officer who reviewed the video prior to a citation being issued, you state your case, and the judge decides. This is no different than an officer sitting in a patrol car at the intersection with dash video, observing a violator run the light, pulling them over and writing a ticket, except the camera is safer because you are not on the side of the road waiting to be hit by someone distracted by the traffic stop. Please stop bashing "us people" who are offering an opposing explanation to your claims.. calling people moronic is not an intelligent response in a discussion.
citizen October 24, 2012 at 10:52 PM
Here's another thing to consider- carpool lane violations are also around $500 after court fees, etc., so why not attack that too if it's about the money? I think "you people" should really try and understand that if you don't violate the law, it doesn't cost you a thing, regardless of the method used to identify violators. Like I said before, the fines are set to be a DETERRENT to the crime, not to line the city's pockets. If the red light ticket was $10, it would be ineffective because there is no significant consequence. The faster you go, the more money you pay for a speeding ticket. This is to deter you from driving too fast. The fines are high for red light violations are to deter people from running red lights. They are nearly the same amount if an officer cites you in person. All you have to do is stop at red lights, and you don't get a ticket. The cameras are not used for anything else- It seems reasonable to assume "you people" want them taken down because you run red lights...It is very easy to avoid the ticket, just stop when the red light is lit. But you already knew that, you learned that in driving school, right?
citizen October 24, 2012 at 11:00 PM
Our signals are synchronized also, trying to maximize the flow of traffic during the day, but Murrieta Hot Springs Road is a very heavily traveled road and the traffic count during peak periods is exceeding its design. Extending the delays at each signal will delay traffic flow further- it is not smoke and mirrors, but simple math. The eventual completion of Clinton Keith road from Whitewood to Winchester Road will alleviate MHS' congestion- that is the fight you should fight- get Clinton Keith completed!! That is a traffic solution!!
Diana Serafin October 24, 2012 at 11:40 PM
Public cameras are unconstitutionl;a while private cameras are the businesses rights. Have you driven in Loma Linda or Hawthorne where they did lengthen the yllow and red - it is fantastic and safe.
Diana Serafin October 24, 2012 at 11:45 PM
If you get a ticket, you must pay the bail first (ticket) then go to court and stand before the judge. So you are NOT innocent first if you have to pay bail first. This is unconstitutional! Next: The video has already been altered when they add the date time stamp. You never get to see the orginal video. You do not get to question the person who cropped the video to see if he edited any frames out. ATS has been caught in Arizona splicing videos. YES ON N
B-Cat October 24, 2012 at 11:53 PM
I could not have said it better myself, I see this as an invasion of privacy as well. Any street corner at anytime anywhere will have accidents and thats with or without Big Brother watching you. I believe these red light cameras are designed to be a trap as the yellow is at bare minimum. As most of us try to be careful and courteous while driving I believe it should be understood that we as human beings have developed our own idiosyncrasy's in handling various situations on the road. Weather its inching up to see if its ok to proceed to make a right turn at the red The RED LIGHT CAMERA is a machine, a computer with no feelings that is supposed to interact with the human equation, it cant and it wont. We are then left with someone who is supposed to be monitoring these situations but what of their judgement? is it biased? As we come to 4 way stop signs we know who was there before us and we let them proceed first, we as human beings are better able to handle our own driving habits than THE ALMIGHTY-ALL KNOWING-BIG BROTHER MACHINE. This is the 1st step of many to come of our humanity being reduced to that of a robotic controlled society. The old Soviet Union and its communist government would have been overjoyed knowing that the very thing that they wanted to do that we fought so strongly against, we are doing to ourselves by just things like the Red Light Cameras-You must vote YES on N and keep America as it was designed to be. Thank You.
censored messenger October 25, 2012 at 12:36 AM
Only the maniacs flying around Murrieta in their SUV's need to be worried, and the cameras were intended for these speeders pushing/ignoring the signals. We're trying to save someone's life and make you ROAD RAGERS think twice. NO ON N
citizen October 25, 2012 at 12:44 AM
Oh Diana, please! You obviously don't realize that a citation is an arrest, and you are posting bail just as you would for a more serious crime. Also, when you are "arrested" and issued a citation, you are being released from the officers custody by signing the citation without admission of guilt, that you will appear before a judge at a later date. If the judge decides, based upon presentation of evidence, that you are not guilty, your bail amount (FINE) is returned to you. The video is not "altered"- you make it sound there is someone changing the footage to make a person appear guilty. That is ridiculous. Again, as others have asked, please provide some data and information to support your claims.....you are now crying that the video is altered-that would be an issue if it were true.....
Mr. Logical October 25, 2012 at 12:45 AM
Although these camera's are in place with good intentions, I find them to be more of a driving hazard than a help. I have seen people slamming on the brakes to avoid going through on a yellow light and it creates extra anxiety in approaching these intersections even when you are driving the speed limit. I would prefer that they were set in place to catch people speeding instead. In Germany and other European countries they use camera's on residential streets to keep people from speeding. That is easier to adjust too and doesn't create any extra anxiety in going through an intersection. I'm all for police ticketing people for running red lights, and there are plenty of them, but not for camera's at intersections.
Diana Serafin October 25, 2012 at 01:00 AM
I think you need to call one of the city council people because the cameras cannot catch speeders! These are not designed for speeding. Note the term RED LIGHT CAMERAS! The camera are for Only for someone going through a red light. The city council will be glad to educate you on this matter! Vote Yes on N (no cameras)!
The Republican October 25, 2012 at 01:01 AM
Citizen calling you people that acted like chearleaders when ATS , the city and Steve Packer Flynn tried to deny Murrietans the right to vote on measure N Morons or Moronic is the PERFECT description of what you are. You no longer deserve intelligent discourse. The moves of all you No on N people have been and continue to be both corrupt and thoroughly disgusting . All of you are like little cockroaches that need to get squished.
Diana Serafin October 25, 2012 at 01:07 AM
@citizen I think you are Jonathon P Huncklefrule! So the camera made me sign something????? And since when does someone who gets arrested pay bail BEFORE he is put into jail? Yes I agree this is ridiculous! ATS has been caught many times altering videos. Do your homework! They also got caught in Australian changing speed time.
Kassen Klein October 25, 2012 at 02:02 AM
Diana, please respond to my questions posted earlier: Kassen Klein 12:22 pm on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 Diana, what is/are the number of Average Daily Trips (ADT's); trip counts at the specified intersections. The relevant numbers or ratio is number of cites/tickets to ADT's. Hypothetically, if there are 12,000 ADT's (vehicles) and of that 103 are cited, the numbers you indicate above pale. Accuracy is in the numbers. ALL of the numbers and one must start with the numbers of cars travel through an intersection, not per hour. I can tell you, not 103 cars pass my house on any single day.
livinsloher October 25, 2012 at 03:43 AM
Gosh Republican... you and Diane are doing a great job getting the point across and I am all for that pause as that would be a solution! great point!!! you have my vote:)
livinsloher October 25, 2012 at 03:48 AM
so what a little delay that would save lives... I have seen many many push a red light and it did not matter it had a camera so the delay would be best. it wont even be noticed!
livinsloher October 25, 2012 at 03:52 AM
this is so true I actually parked in my driveway with my bumper extending out over on to side walk now mind you I am on a dead end culdesak and recieved a ticket I had to pay it to fight it and did so and won and was told my refund was coming to me and never recieved it... go figure!
livinsloher October 25, 2012 at 03:53 AM
people dont get it... our privacy and rights are being taken slowly but surely and pretty soon we wont have any rights!
The Republican October 25, 2012 at 04:25 AM
KKk...Kassan Klein kook. There will be no answers to irrelevant questions.
Galactic Cannibal October 25, 2012 at 04:42 AM
The posters here, confirm the reason why the US Congress is near worthless and can get nothing done. All they do is bitch bitch are each other. Never solve a problem. Clearly you people have never heard of "averaging speed cameras" They really stop speeders stone dead.
Diana Serafin October 25, 2012 at 04:44 AM
@ Klein. I am sorry but I missed your comment. I do not know how many cars pass through the intersection but I do know the number 103 is not accurate. To see the number of tickets per month at the Murrieta intersections, go to highwayrobbery.net - look up Murrieta. He got all the information from the city.
Diana Serafin October 25, 2012 at 02:37 PM
The truth is that in 2005, there were 11 fatal collisions within the borders of the city and none were caused by red light running. That’s right, zero. All eleven fatalities were caused by impaired drivers and almost half occurred on the highway and had nothing to do with Murrieta city streets. Although these fatalities had nothing whatsoever to do with red light running or whether red light cameras have improved safety in Murrieta, ATS included this fabrication in their flyer hoping the public would be fooled into supporting their ticketing scheme.
The Republican October 25, 2012 at 04:55 PM
Citizen you opinion really is like pissing in the wind at this point.. The cameras are going to get banned by a large majority of voters You do gooders in Murrieta never seem to want to abide by the will of the people. . We are ready for a post election lawsuit because we all know that is where this is going.
James C. Walker October 29, 2012 at 03:06 PM
Vote YES on N to ban the cameras. Red light cameras are a predatory money-grab program, not a safety program. Then, after the cameras are banned and the city of Murietta has no financial reasons to deliberately mis-engineer traffic lights to get more ticket revenue --- then insist that the yellow intervals on the lights be extended by one second. This will lower the violation rate so low that ATS or any of the other predatory red light camera cash register companies would not want to even bid for a contract. James C. Walker, National Motorists Association, www.motorists.org, Ann Arbor, MI
Diana Serafin November 01, 2012 at 04:17 PM
November 6th Election Night Party Join us on Election Night to watch the Election at Spelly’s Bar and Grille! Spelly’s serves Great Food and of course a full bar. Please support Spelly’s! Plan to eat dinner, enjoy a drink and watch the election with family, friends and candidates on large screen televisions. Spelly’s is letting us use the entire place with all TV’s on the election. FOX, CNN, MSNBC etc will be on the televisions. Most of us will probably be there about 6 pm, of course we can arrive earlier. Happy hour continues to 7 too. We need a few laptops to get Riverside County Election updates, so anyone having one please bring it! Spelly’s Pub and Grille 40675 Murrieta Hot Springs Rd Ste B1 Murrieta, CA 92563 (located between 15 and 215 freeways by Richie’s diner) Candidates attending: Jamie White – Temecula City Council Patrice Lynes – Temecula City Council Harry Ramos – Murrieta City Council Ban the Cams Yes on N – Murrieta Measure to Stop Red light Ticketing Cameras And maybe more candidates……… Everyone is welcome! Post this everywhere, email friends and invite everyone! Need more information contact Diana 951-677-7884 Vote First then come over and join the Excitement and Fun!
Diana Serafin November 01, 2012 at 09:53 PM
Just got a ROBO call from Steve Flynn, the man who sued us to stop the red light camera petition from getting on the ballot. The ending was.... sponsored by Traffic Safety Organizations and Paid for by major donor ATS. Yes that is the camera company ATS. They will not stop at anything! San Diego is taking them out too. http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/nov/01/sanders-wont-push-renew-red-light-cameras/
mike smith November 06, 2012 at 04:28 AM
@ Diana Serafin . Thank you for your endless work against the red light cameras. We hope to see you at Spelly's for a victorious high five. I have decided to take the yes on N sign out of my yard and hang it on the wall in my garage. Seeing it every morning will put a nice grin on my face. Thanks again.

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