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Tea Party Marine Plans to Run for Murrieta City Council

Gary Stein, who was recently discharged from the U.S. Marine Corps for anti-Obama remarks, said he intends to run for Murrieta City Council.

A former Camp Pendleton Marine who was based on remarks he made on the Facebook page, "Armed Forces Tea Party," has announced he wants to put his energy toward his city of residence—Murrieta.

The former Marine Sgt. Gary Stein, , told Patch he intends to run for Murrieta City Council during the upcoming Nov. 6 election. He plans to pick up an election packet Monday from City Hall, he said.

"...I firmly believe that real 'Change' comes from from real leadership within the cities and towns around the nation," Stein said, about his decision to run for office. "I believe the city of Murrieta needs to be ran on common sense principles of Fiscal Responsibility and Limited Government. I believe that the city owes it to the citizens to be as transparent as possible since the city belongs to the people."

"It also seems that the current city council is more concerned about bringing new business into the city instead of helping the small businesses we currently have.

"Also I have noticed some council members are too concerned about what they have done for the city and nothing else. City Council members need to remember that they work for the people of Murrieta."

Stein would not be the only former Marine throwing his hat into the council race.

Harry Ramos, 36, who said he retired from the Marines because of injuries, has already picked up an election packet.

"Since 9/11 I have felt really compelled to serve," said Ramos, who is originally from the Bronx. "Since I can no longer serve in the Marines, let me serve in this capacity."

Ramos described himself as a Republican "who leans conservative."

Others who intend to run for the two open city council seats are David Meuting and current City Councilman Randon Lane. As of Thursday, Lane was the only candidate to have turned in a completed packet,

Cookie's Mom July 30, 2012 at 08:10 PM
Amen to that!
The Gorilla July 30, 2012 at 08:55 PM
I am a proud Black Conservative and a member of the Tea Party. I think Stein is a radical and belongs with radicals. I know Bob Kowell and Diane Serafin. Diane Serafin was loosely associated with Bob Kowell but because of she continues her nutty behavior is now on her own with her fellow conspiracy theory wingnuts. Look who Diane appears with in public. It has not been Kowell for a long long time. At least a year from what I understand. Jeff K if you were really connected to this area you would know this since it is common local political junky knowledge that the papers don't deal with. LGPAC is an old website and does not reflect what is happening right now. So the Tea Party is racist? As a Black man I wouldn't be a member if that was so. Such broad brush strokes are just pure ignorance. You are taking the actions of a few and applying it to many. How stupid.
The Gorilla July 30, 2012 at 09:28 PM
I haven't just spoken to Randon on the phone as you just claimed Jeff K. I have spoken to him in person many many times and have friends in common with him. It is very unfortunate what Randon has done to himself and the corner he has painted himself into. Once the general Murrieta public knows what Randon has been up to and who he has been making deals with there will be anger and fallout. Randon seems like a nice guy to socialize with. He is a very likable man. I don't understand why he does what he does but I don't like what I know about him now. It's pretty disgusting.
Ernie White July 30, 2012 at 09:57 PM
Hello everyone. I do not comment on these blogs because no one is who they appear to be. However, someone is pretending to be me. I don't know who it is so I'm sorry but someone is impersonating me. I believe everyone should excercise their 1st ammendment right to speech. Unfortunately, there is no way to stop someone from pretending to be someone else. Again, I apologize that someone is pretending to be me. I would not criticize anyone from behind a keyboard. And remember, we are all Americans and this country belongs to all of you. We must learn to get along and love each other. We will all need each other eventually. Thank you for the opportunity to clear this up. God Bless You All. To Randon and Jeff K, again, I do not know who is impersonating me so please accept my apologies. I would never post anything online against anyone. (Excuse my spelling. I'm in a hurry).
Jeff K July 30, 2012 at 10:02 PM
The Gorilla is NOT a black man. He is trying to deflect, the racism, the hatred, the bigotry, the intolerance of Bob Kowell, Diana Serafin and the local EXTREME Right Tea Party led by Kowell under several groups including the Murrieta-Temecula Republican Assembly and the Limited Government PAC. Serafin offers their views and protecting a dishonorably discharged Marine is one of them. Its just a pattern. They also made heroes of the Border Patrol officers who shot and killed an unarmed Illegal Immigrant and were imprisoned for it. Roy Holmgren- when did you turn black?? LOL.
The Peacekeeper July 30, 2012 at 10:14 PM
Haha. The gorilla is a black man. His name is mike. He's down with the Raider Nation. Don't be fooled.
The Gorilla July 30, 2012 at 10:22 PM
I never said I was you. I live in Murrieta. Where do you live?
The Gorilla July 30, 2012 at 10:35 PM
That is not my name Jeff. I am a Black member of the Tea Party. Are you saying the Tea Party has no Black membership? Are you saying there are no Black Republicans? Peacekeeper I am a part of the Nation but you also have the wrong person.
Jeff K July 30, 2012 at 11:36 PM
Let me see........nope I only see a couple in a sea of old white people who have big yellow streaks down their backs, all afraid of whatever the Republican Party, Grover Norquist and Karl Rove tell them to be afraid of. They have no ideas......just complaints and BOO HOO HOO's about not getting their ways. Their agenda has been on the opposite side of the last two MAJOR Constitutional issues and a third that has reached the highest court. Their agenda is being overturned everytime they create a discriminatory law, a prejudiced filled angry voter rule. ONLY 27% of Americans agree with their racist hate, their over the top bigotry and their anti-everybody that isn't OLD, WHITE and EVANGELICAL. So yes, MOST Americans don't hate other Americans....only these frightened few who stock their closets with weapons....just in case the Black, Liberal President wants to create a law or tax they don't like. But Roy Holmgren, everyone knows who you are. You are a liar and no one can trust you. You are just the same as who.....Gary Stein.
TVOR July 31, 2012 at 01:15 AM
You paint with a mighty broad brush Jeff. The people who post on this site are from a long list of backgrounds. There is no "sea" of old white people here.
Gary Bonanno July 31, 2012 at 03:54 AM
So, I am going to argue in favor of traffic light cameras. Here are some wonderful selling points for people that are preaching FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. Do you realize the FISCAL benefits of traffic light cameras? You can get the value of having a police officer posted at that traffic light without having to pay an actual police officer or worry about the officer's pay benefits, comfort, safety, retirement, etc. Plus, you get to free up a police officer, in order to perform REAL police work, like accident investigations, criminal investigations, community policing, etc. For the cost of one camera, which is at that location 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, as opposed to a minimum of 5 officers to provide that same amount of coverage, you can increase the city's revenue three fold. Buy 3 of those cameras and it's like hiring FIFTEEN police officers. They pay for themselves in a year. Plus, you improve the safety of the city. I'm not sure if I see the bad points.
Gary Bonanno July 31, 2012 at 04:55 AM
So, you're saying if you're not a radical conservative or a Tea Party member, you can't think for yourself? If anything, I think the non-radical non Tea Party members are the ones that DO think for themselves. The radicals and ultra-conservatives are the ones that all spew the party line. One Tea Party or radical publishes a conspiracy theory (pick one, Depleted Uranium ammo or the administration targeting American citizens with drones) and all of the rest of the little parrots and robots start singing the same song. It's like a paranoid version of It's A Small World.
Barbara R July 31, 2012 at 05:50 AM
My son wrote many of the same opinions as you stated while he was still in the Army. The difference was that he didn't do it on facebook. An illegal war under an improperly vetted "president". Funny that a "rule" - Constitutional or not - is so valued that it is enforsed only when they can't seem to avoid it. While you're there could you please have the radar cops start ticketing the tailgators who are pushing the law obiding drivers? I know unsafe distance is a low revenue fine but I've been rear-ended three times and NOW I go with the flow of traffic. I am paying off the $370 speeding ticket I was issued for driving the actual safe speed. I don't live in Murrieta but I do travel there with Constitutional protection - supposedly.
Gary Bonanno July 31, 2012 at 05:56 AM
So, go check out the North County Times. Although Gary posted on his FB page that he was not a candidate for any position, he has the North County Times beating his drum that he is "thinking" of running. Gary, decisiveness is a valuable characteristic in a leader. You're running, you're not running, screw you, I'm doing what I want, I'm running, I'm not running, it's up to my family...Whatever.
Barbara R July 31, 2012 at 06:16 AM
Most people with open minds are actually very courages. My friends on both "sides" of the political fence all agree on one thing - they want to chose what they believe, what they do, and they want to do it free. It's the ones who are to afraid to consider that things are not all rosey that have an immovable agenda - everythings fine! governments should always be trusted! lets shop! - that show fear in their eyes at the slightest mention of a secretive government, a decieved population, misuse of power. Ben Franklin as your nieghbor would not get YOUR name on the Declaration of Independance... Not old, not yellow, not decieved, no gun in the closet, and I hate no-one.
Maxx July 31, 2012 at 07:12 AM
I will not vote for a guy who cries on fb about his issues.
Jeff K July 31, 2012 at 12:23 PM
The "Californian"'s reporting confirms that the Murrieta-Temecula Tea Party RECRUITED Gary Stein saying- "Gary Stein said Monday he's been asked to run by Southwest Riverside County tea party and Republican Party activists. Chairman Bob Kowell at it again, bringing in stellar candidates to run against veteran and successful Councilmen like Lane. One of his main causes was to be a force against traffic light cameras according to the article. Yes, my position and well documented in polls and pictures is that the Republican Conservative Tea Party is made up of OLDER, white Americans. They don't run on a platform of ideas, but run in a platform of hatred of minorities, prejudice and discrimination. They don't care about the Constitution or they wouldn't be on the opposite side of every PROVED Constitutional freedom they fight against, like Obamacare and AZ SB1070 and of course Prop 8. Right here in Murrieta they had an initiative passed that would not have passed California State Law and so far has not been forced into place by the Tea Party who scared voters into voting for it. It was illegal!!! The local Tea Party is an OLD WHITE GUY and his little attack dogs and mouthpieces. Poor Sad Dave Peters didn't notice the support Gary Stein got from Diana Serafin or Robin Nielson right on this blog....reading and education is also lacking among the Tea Party crowd, they just know fear, prejudice and hate. I stand by my wide paint brush. OH WAIT.....I think a drone is overhead.
Gary Bonanno July 31, 2012 at 02:06 PM
Gary Stein I only threaten to not follow certain orders... Ones that could be unlawful... So as long has none were given he or anyone else has nothing to worry about. See, he's twisting the truth (like he accused the North County Times of doing). He said and I quote, "As a Marine, I say SCREW OBAMA!" I won't follow ALL orders from him,,," He also went on to say that he wouldn't salute him.Murrieta, I hope you do what is right and show this kid that immature behavior does not get rewarded by election to city government
MurrietaRes July 31, 2012 at 02:40 PM
Gary, in all that you have said through this entire string, you are right on cue. Whether or not you are resident of Murrieta, the point should be well taken that Stein is unfit for any position of authority. And, speaking of liars. > (in part and deleted by the owner) The Gorilla 3:01 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012 My name is not Roy. My name is Ernie and I’m Black.. So am I a racist member of the Ter Party too Jeff? > (in part) The Gorilla 1:19 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012 ….Jeff likes to use divorce accusations made 4 years ago…..while he harasses friends and ex girlfriends of mine for no reason other than what I term as strange and maybe Gay obsession me. > (in part) Roy Holmgren 4:13 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 You are the one with the gay obsession with me Jeff….. No, I am not a stalker, but do read each comment carefully and thoroughly.
USMC PRIDE July 31, 2012 at 04:26 PM
EDITOR: You need to stop giving Stein publicity. If you do not, then one might think you too are a radical, hatefilled extremist who has also has no respect for those in uniform who have served and serve honorably. As editor, it is your responsibilty to inform your readers and you have failed miserably in doing so. You want to do another article about your boy, make it an honest and factual one that includes what he really is, not what he tells you he is. Links have been provided to you to his case, military records, his one personal page. Add that of the, Armed Forces Tea Party, which he is founder and admin. Should you decide to provide this kid more publicity make sure you provide what all should know who may consider doing business with him, vote for him or see him on the street and think he some sort of hero or patriot.
Gary Bonanno August 01, 2012 at 01:48 AM
Charles Eaton The EVIL FRAUDULENT TRAITOROUS muslim communist USURPER, soetoro AKA bounel AKA obama, the TRAITOROUS TURNCOAT. Can not be impeached he has to be arrested and Tried This is the stuff that Gary Stein allows on his FB page that will not tolerate racism or bigotry. Meanwhile, he bans comments from women with the statement, ".stop doing your husband's dirty work" insinuating that they have no thoughts of their own. Murrieta, decide now, before it's too late. Tell him to stay away from YOUR city council.
Jeff Walters August 01, 2012 at 04:48 AM
Once a Marine always a Marine. We have taken an oath to defend our country from enemies both foreign and domestic. In my opinion, allmost all elected officials are domestic enemies giving thier charcater traits, the way they steal, lie and cheat, change laws to better themselves and punish us. No I cannot support what he has written or done. However, I am sure that he would be there by my side if the crap hit the fan, reloading and taking the fight to the enemy. No I cannot bring myself to vote for someone that has such a character flaw, and that goes for all the other so called elected officials as well. If people feel so strongly about this ex-Marines's outburst. Then why dontt they themselves do something to get rid of the incompetent elected officials that are already there. He is just trying to get rid of those idiots that are already there.
Gary Bonanno August 01, 2012 at 04:53 AM
@Jeff Walters, then you REALLY need to take a close look at his military records. When you need him to be standing a post in Iraq, he's busy stacking rocks in attractive formations. He wants to get rid of idiots by replacing them with incompetent, illiterate and irresponsible kids? I hope Murrieta keeps the idiots.
Mike Ritter August 01, 2012 at 05:46 AM
@JeffWalters- what an obnoxious post. There are many, as in most, elected officials that actually do a good job, that are honest, and hard working... I would also say, the comment "once a Marine, always a Marine" does a great disservice to the honorable Marines that are serving or have served. This person was dishonorably discharged. He was convicted by his peers. Maybe the UMJC doesn't mean anything to you, but it does to the military. Mr. Stein first stated he wouldn't follow orders from the commander-and-chief. I do believe he was guilty of lying to a superior officer. He was also found guilty of not following a direct order from a supirior officer. His military record shows he's not to be trusted. Maybe you don't take HONOR seriously but many Marines do. Even I'd they don't like an order, they follow it. Mr. Stein has stated that Mr. Obama is a usurper, not legally the president. Unfortunatly for him, he is. There are only 3 requirements to be President and Obama has met tbe 3. He was also elected by the Electoral College. Mr. Stein is a headcase...
Omar August 01, 2012 at 06:13 AM
An Editor decides what is newsworthy. His record, story and background is not difficult to find. Regardless of the opinion of this man, It is important to highlight potential candidates in this importnat election.
Nancy Knight August 01, 2012 at 08:57 AM
Proof that Randon Lane is disingenuous about wanting residents to contact him are two emails that he refused to even read. The subject line on July 14 and again on July 27: "Commercial Districts and Enforcement of Loss of Nonconforming Status. Not Read is how Randon Lane replied both dates. I am a property owner, part-time resident and business owner in Murrieta. Lane apparently is not interested in reading about the damage and implications of the Council's rezoning homes to a commercial district that does not allow homes as they did recently under the five year reveiw of the General Plan. Not good govenment and a taking of private property rights. Wouldn't you agree?
USMC PRIDE August 01, 2012 at 04:32 PM
Omar - "An Editor decides what is newsworthy. His record, story and background is not difficult to find. Regardless of the opinion of this man, It is important to highlight potential candidates in this importnat election." Omar, I respectfully disagree. The Patch has done 27 stories on this kid. He calls them for more publicity and they jump. They were not highlighting a potential canidate the previous 26 stories, they are highlighting what Stein wishes them to highlight. As such, if The Patch is going to continue to be this kid's mouthpiece, they should do so responsibly. It is the editor's responsiblity to report the entire story, not just what Stein wishes them to report.
Gary Bonanno August 01, 2012 at 07:05 PM
Patrice Batyski I'd like to thank the US Marine Corps for stripping you of your uniform that you were so clearly unfit to wear. Sunday at 5:16pm near Philadelphia, PA Margie Flores likes this. Gary Stein I would like to thank you for never serving. Sunday at 5:48pm · 1 Patrice Batyski With people like you in the service, I'm glad I didn't. 20 hours ago Patrice Batyski Benedict Arnold, Quisling and now Gary Stein. Traitors' wall of shame. 20 hours ago Once again, Gary Stein shows his immaturity and support for Freedom of Speech by ridiculing somebody for expressing their opinion. Yet, he's a Constitutional Conservative. According to Gary Stein, HE should be allowed Freedom of Speech but nobody else has a right to it, unless they want to be ridiculed and heckled. Remember that, Gary, when you are making your presentations during your campaign!
Jim August 04, 2012 at 07:10 PM
Another way to get rid of the cameras: Economics. Make them unprofitable for cities. How? 1. Educate your friends about Snitch Tickets, so that they don't respond to them. They are fake/phishing red light camera "tickets" mailed out by California police to fool the registered owner into identifying the actual driver of the car. One city sends out about 10,000 of them annually. (In SoCal, Bakersfield, Corona, Del Mar, El Cajon, Encinitas, Escondido, Garden Grove, Hawthorne, Inglewood, Laguna Woods, Los Alamitos, Oceanside, Poway, Riverside, Santa Ana, Santa Clarita, Solana Beach, South Gate and Vista use them.) Snitch Tickets have not been filed with the court, so they don't say "Notice to Appear," don't have the court's addr. and phone #, and usually say (on the back, in small letters), "Do not contact the court about this notice." Since they have NOT been filed with the court, they have no legal weight whatsoever. You can ignore a Snitch Ticket. If in doubt, Google the term. 2. Also let you friends know that REAL tickets issued by cities in LA County can be ignored, because the LA County court does not report ignored tickets to the DMV. (Please also emphasize to your friends that this info applies only to tickets from cities that are in LA County.) If you take the time to educate your friends about these things, you may find that suddenly you are eating better. Friends will be buying you lunch after they realize that you have just saved them $500.
Gary Bonanno August 04, 2012 at 07:35 PM
Why are you so against the cameras? It's a way to improve safety in the community, free officers to perform real police work and generate revenue for the city. So, why would you want to get rid of them? The only reason that I can see is that you want to be able to run red lights and not worry about getting a ticket.

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