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Murrieta Red-Light Cameras Slated to be Shuttered

Red-light cameras installed at three Murrieta intersections are scheduled to be turned off Dec. 14 pending the outcome of a new lawsuit to stop the city from enforcing the ban.

Red-light cameras will be turned off in Murrieta, but they will not be taken down just yet.

Following the will of 57.26 percent of voters, the cameras are scheduled to be shut down Dec. 14—indefinitely.

Murrieta city council voted unanimously Tuesday night to certify the Nov. 6 election results. According to election law, voter-approved measures such as the one prohibiting red-light cameras in the city must go into effect within 10 days of the results being certified, which is Dec. 14.

Just prior to casting their votes Tuesday, however, council members decided in closed session that the cameras would be turned off pending the outcome of a new lawsuit.

“They are asking the judge to say the initiative is invalid because it is a statewide issue, not a local issue,” said Murrieta City Attorney Jeff Morris.

By “they,” Morris was referring to Safe Streets For Murrieta, which bears the same name as a committee that during the campaign received at least $55,000 from American Traffic Solutions, the company that operates the cameras in Murrieta.

There was no council discussion on the matter; however, a few members of the public urged council members to adhere to voters’ will.

“The citizens beat big business by spending less than $2,500 (on the campaign),” said Diana Serafin, who led the measure effort. “...The citizens of Murrieta are the victors. The red-light cameras are all about money.”

Another resident, Francis Burns, asked the council to “act with integrity.”

“The people behind this initiative followed all the legal guidelines and the process falls under the guidelines of the constitution of the state of California,” Burns said. “I believe that the only course of action the council has...is to remove the red-light cameras at the minimum...I believe if the council decides to take any other action...is to take on...(an) attitude that you know best and that you are going to ignore the will of the people.”

City legal staff explained the suit was filed Monday in Riverside County Superior Court in an effort to stop the city from enforcing the camera ban.

“It is the council’s desire to follow the law,” said City Attorney Leslie Devaney. “The appellate court had (signaled) before the election that they thought the initiative was (in violation) of the council’s discretion. But they didn’t want to rule so they basically said we are going to wait for the election.”

Until and if the court rules otherwise, Devaney said, the city is prepared to shut down the cameras on schedule.

Vic December 06, 2012 at 02:31 AM
Diana, I can't believe you're even engaging this idiot....
American Girl December 06, 2012 at 02:32 AM
I told you earlier I am not old. I agreed with EQ in regards to the first sentence. I wasn't talking to you though, I was speaking to EQ. Why is everything on here about you?
American Girl December 06, 2012 at 02:32 AM
Do you have a problem with White people? I think that is racist if you do. aren't you a liberal? Thats sort of against all you stand for isn't it? no discrimination against anyone.
Diana Serafin December 06, 2012 at 02:33 AM
Rob: Basically neither did anything with the petition. As far as Steve Flynn, he got a phone call Sunday afternoon asking if he wanted to be involved in a court case against us. (that is what he told the papers). KFI John and Ken tried to find out who was behind the suit, and ended up ripping him apart and hanging up on him. Since ATS donated $80,000 to the Safe Streets Murrieta pac, (Flynn's home address) one might assume ATS was involved in the suit. Flynn has stated he is not involved in this new suit but his address is still used. Listen to John and Ken at www.banthecamsmurrieta.com site.
Diana Serafin December 06, 2012 at 02:41 AM
@Vic You are right that I should not be engage with him but I do want the truth to be told. If someone reads his false statements, at least there is a rebuttal.
Dave Peter December 06, 2012 at 02:55 AM
There is no rebuttal. Granite funded Kowell and his Extremist organization and he funded you. Its plain and simple. Again, if you are this straight and honest person. How do you ask ANYONE to stop making up rumors when you are the queen of doing it. Ask anyone who has ever met you in person at the City Council meetings. You are the "freedom of information" person. Answer whether you start all sorts of unsubstantiated rumors that fit your version of conservatism. Oh BTW, John and Ken have been taken off the air seven times because of their disgusting hatred for Hispanics. You know too that Ken IS GAY. Diana Serafin took your right to vote for the candidate of your choice away from you when she scared Murrieta into term limits. Now good Council members will be replaced by people like....HER, trainees with no experience.
Dave Peter December 06, 2012 at 03:03 AM
So Rob, you have a big mouth and now back down.....no guts. You have no credibility because you are EXACTLY what you described.
American Girl December 06, 2012 at 03:03 AM
You two girls need to duke it out and get it over with , good lord.
American Girl December 06, 2012 at 03:05 AM
John and Ken have been on KFI for years, I have never noticed them being takin off. When was that?
American Girl December 06, 2012 at 03:07 AM
Dave why would you care of Ken is gay? I thought you liked gays, are you gay? You are all over the gay marriage article. Not that I care, just making a point that you point out that someone is gay. Arent you a liberal? Funny thing is that you say horrible things about conservatives but most of the hate comes from you, a liberal. Unless you are a poser liberal.
Dave Peter December 06, 2012 at 03:37 AM
Conservos hate gays. I made the mention because I know how wonderful Conservos think they are for attacking Hispanics. LOL.....like you June. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/17/john-and-ken-only-suspended-for-nine-days-after-insensitive-whitney-houston-comments_n_1283978.html http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/02/29/hate-speech-victim-calls-for-permanent-removal/186312 In the second report it was found that John and Ken only give correct facts 55% of the time. 55%!!!!!! John and Ken are conservative scum.
Dave Peter December 06, 2012 at 03:39 AM
Notice how conservatives like Serafin, Kowell, Reiss, Lynes want to take your freedoms away and put in their place their personal ideologies?
American Girl December 06, 2012 at 04:00 AM
Dave I have never said I do not like gays. I have several gay friends. Who are you and why do you think everyone thinks like you do? WHo the hell are you? I drive a lot for work and I listen to talk radio sometimes. Shoot me! You know what is so funny is that I am not a fan of democrats but I do have a lot of democrat friends and I know they do not think the way you do. Thank God everyone isn't grouped together like you think they are.
Dave Peter December 06, 2012 at 04:08 AM
Here's what I know today about conservatives...... 51% of Republicans think Obama stole the election using ACORN. 27% of Republicans want to secede. 17% aren't sure.....yes, they are the PATRIOTIC ones as they claim. One reason that such a high percentage of Republicans are holding what could be seen as extreme views is that their numbers are declining. Our final poll before the election, which hit the final outcome almost on the head, found 39% of voters identifying themselves as Democrats and 37% as Republicans. Since the election we've seen a 5 point increase in Democratic identification to 44%, and a 5 point decrease in Republican identification to 32%. June you are which one??? LOL LOL LOL!!!!!
American Girl December 06, 2012 at 04:11 AM
Acorn?? Do they even exist any longer?
Dave Peter December 06, 2012 at 04:11 AM
Obama was mandated by a majority of the American people in an electoral landslide to tax the rich more. He was mandated to do immigration reform. Gun control will happen in 2014. The Fairness Doctrine will be back.. Diana won't find Obama's birth certificate either, and he doesn't care anymore. He IS the President for FOUR MORE YEARS and they havent even started yet,.....LOL!!!
American Girl December 06, 2012 at 04:13 AM
And you hate republicans why?? You sound like you really have issues with politics Dave. I think you may need some therapy or talk to your medical Dr. Politics arent not the most important thing in life. I find my children and husband are more important than anything. My pets and my friends too. Step away from the computer and enjoy your life.
Dave Peter December 06, 2012 at 04:17 AM
June, I have an amazing life. One reason is that I was able to retire at 58. Second I can sit here and NEVER listen to what you say. My Party won and blew away Mitt Romney and I celebrate that EVERY DAY. Also I can laugh at Republicans in their frustrations.....like I'm laughing at you. Of course family is one hundred times more important then anything else in life......what kind of pets do you have?
Dave Peter December 06, 2012 at 04:19 AM
Of course they don't exist anymore......but Fox News has brainwashed all you old white conservos with fear tactics. The same kind that Serafin uses to get votes.
American Girl December 06, 2012 at 04:22 AM
If you never listen to what I say why do you respond? I do not have frustrations. And Yes you are much older than I am. You really need to read your posts and see for yourself that you have issues. I have yet to see one person on here ever agree with you. You sound like a out of control maniac. I can give you some referrals for some help, let me know your zip code. EVERYONE LETS ALL JOIN TOGETHER TO GET DAVE SOME MUCH NEEDED HELP! WHO IS IN ???
Vic December 06, 2012 at 05:22 AM
Nobody's in, June. Hopeless causes are just that.... hopeless!
Timber December 06, 2012 at 05:59 AM
In order for your government to convict you of administratively violating a red light camera infraction they must have complied with all the rules and regulations showing the signal was installed and operated according to the law. "Your honor, I believe that if the people want to convict me of violating a signal, it is incumbent upon them to first establish that the signal was installed and operated according to the law. Indeed, this is their duty per Vehicle Code section 21455.5(c)(2)(C). Therefore, I request that (per People v Earnest (33 Cal.App.4th Supp. 18)) they produce originals or certified copies of all of the documentation required to install and operate a traffic control signal per Chapter 4 of the California Manual of Universal Traffic Control Devices 2010 (MUTCD)." This will require the officer to carry at least two binders full of certified documentation to court for each traffic signal, and the judge to spend about an hour reviewing the documentation before the trial can proceed. If even one half of 1% of the people who got these tickets would do this, the system would grind to a halt. They would not be able to afford to write these tickets. If you really want to fight back, this is another way to do it - take the profit out of the tickets for revenue scam. After all, we ALL must comply with the 'law', right?
Rob December 06, 2012 at 06:06 AM
Thank you for the information Diana. More importantly, thank for taking a stand to protect our community. I applaud your effort, proud to call you a neighbor and stand with you shoulder to shoulder on this topic.
Rob December 06, 2012 at 06:26 AM
The bottom line is the red light cameras are gone. A applaud the voters. I care not about the childish antics of trolls, high schoolers feigning adulthood or adults behaving like high schoolers. God bless Diana for her hard work.
Vic December 06, 2012 at 06:31 AM
Agreed, Rob. The people have spoken and that's what counts.
Ibegta Differwidya December 06, 2012 at 07:39 AM
I love these discussions. They convince people not to live in Murrieta, thus keeping the population density down.
LBV Collins December 06, 2012 at 03:34 PM
Thanks for the links, Rob. I love it when the simplest, cheapest solution solves the problem... just increase the time the lights stay yellow by a 1/2 second, and you dramatically decrease the number of drivers running red lights. Easy...
Alan Taylor December 06, 2012 at 04:36 PM
Great work Diana!
Scott Thomas (AKA - Scott Thomas) December 06, 2012 at 06:17 PM
Would it be illegal to pass out masks to all the Murrietans?
Entitlement Queen December 06, 2012 at 07:46 PM
Well Steve just so you know I find Jeff Kleiner to be both insane and hilarious because nothing he posts about me is even close to accurate. He posts what he thinks is real based on information he finds online. He then creates a fantasy of me being a wife beater or that my kids are ugly or that my kids have mental issues needing therapy. He also thinks i live with Mommy and daddy which is funny as hell.Jeff also acts like his family is sooooo important to him. In reality though he is impotent with no kids with a wife that has a face that looks like a grapefruit sized teabag. He has family members like Jill and Branden Kleiner that along with the rest of his direct family have disowned him. And according to his wife Cindy's twitter account he sits at home on disability with the shakes. She has blasted him several times on twitter for being such a lazy ass. All Jeff has is his four walls and his pugs along with a blog to live a fake life through and a sports salary web site and twitter site to give him purpose. Compared to my life Jeff's life is just shit. I laugh at his insane rants every day It is comedy. The next thing he will post is me graduating from Murrieta stalker to Murrieta serial killer. ROTFLMFAO

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