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City Council Candidate Stands for Property Rights, Helping Businesses

Murrieta City Council candidate Harry Ramos describes himself as a Republican who leans to the conservative side.

A Bronx, NY, transplant who settled in Murrieta while serving in the U.S. Marines Corps is seeking election to Murrieta City Council.

Harry Ramos, a 35-year-old military intelligence analyst said due to injuries suffered in his last deployment to Iraq he is now medically retired from the Marines—prompting him to want to find another way to serve. Ramos is among .

"Since 9/11 I have felt really compelled to serve," Ramos said. "Since I can no longer serve in the Marines, let me serve in this capacity."

Ramos said he was in New York City the day of 9/11, on a train that had passed under the World Trade Center a little more than an hour before the first plane hit. Seeing the devastation prompted him to look into becoming a New York police officer, and ultimately to enlist in the Marines.

Married and the father of two girls, 6 and 3, with a baby boy on the way, Ramos said he plans to raise his family in Murrieta.

He said he became interested in Murrieta city government when he received a citation for his garbage cans being visible from his property.

"I worked really hard at getting my property and was just amazed that somebody could tell me what I can and can't do on it," Ramos said.

"...That somehow it is the job of the government to control and shepherd their constituents as if we were lemmings," Ramos also said.

This prompted him to begin reading Murrieta municipal code.

"There is a lot of I don't agree with so here I am," Ramos said.

Though city council is a non-partisan office, Ramos describes himself as a Republican who leans to the conservative side.

"One of the biggest problems I see with our great city is it is not really business-friendly," he continued. "If you look at most of the businesses they are going to Temecula and Menifee."

He said he plans to get out and meet many business owners as part of his campaign.

"I want to become proactive in the community," he said. "I think we are going to see a swing in American politics, where a lot more people will become involved. God Bless America."

Editor's Note: This is the third in a series of articles that will profile each of the the six candidates. Click here to read articles about and

The Republican August 23, 2012 at 02:48 PM
Sam Bradstreet is Liberal psycho troll Jeff Kleiner. Ignore him
Harry Ramos August 23, 2012 at 05:26 PM
Sam I’ve read your posts about 5 times and you so eloquently express the underlining philosophies of the left and misunderstanding of the right or at least my points and more importantly the right of the people. All due respect I feel that some of your conclusions are wrong not because of what you are saying but because you are using inaccurate actualities to come to those conclusions. I don’t think we will change our views but maybe we could agree on the nuances of our issues and maybe I might be able to earn your vote for dog catcher :)
Harry Ramos August 23, 2012 at 05:33 PM
5) recalls – I will admit recalls are ugly and costly and time consuming but this holds true any time you fire someone. Do you own your own business? Would you fire someone for not doing their job? How about for lying on their resume? If I was elected it would be because the citizens agreed on the importance of property rights and how I want to approach business in the city and the budget. Now if I really had different views on the three topics, would that not be the same as lying on a resume and should I not be removed? Consequences are a part of life why would you want our representatives to be immune to theirs? You do realize that all elected representatives (since the 17th amendment) work directly for the people right??
Harry Ramos August 23, 2012 at 05:35 PM
1) First, we are not a democracy, we are a republic simply to prevent mob rule however the power still remains with the people. 2) Interestingly you touch on the courts and the decisions that came down. I feel it is a good point to bring up since I think most Americans believe the final determination of all constitutional matters are decided in the Supreme Court. This is not true. This is one of the actualities I was referring to. We the people can overturn any Supreme Court decision. This is Fact not opinion. I will not try to insult your intelligence and knowledge on the constitution so I will not explain how unless you ask me to.
Harry Ramos August 23, 2012 at 05:40 PM
3) Your first paragraph struck me since you took exception when I alluded that government tries to control the people yet you prove my point. My first thought after reading your paragraph was how can Liberals say they are for the people yet fear the notion of “The will of the people. “ You are basically saying you cannot always follow the will of the people or allow the people to always act on their will since some catastrophic happening in the cosmos might occur. How is that not imposing control over the people. Are you suggesting government ultimately knows best? 4) Oath keepers. First I have taken an oath three times in my life. I truly believe that there is no greater responsibility I will assume than the defense of the constitution and the country. Now, there is such a thing as an unlawful order and no military person is supposed to follow such an order. I could list hundreds of examples of unlawful orders but will just site the movie “A few good men.” I have heard of the Oath keepers but I really don’t know too much about them I’ve never been approached. I do not know what is rumer or fact so I wont comment.
Sam Bradstreet August 23, 2012 at 06:00 PM
WOW!! This is where conservatives get things so very wrong. We are a group of people, not an individual person. Thus, the majority cannot remove the rights of a minority that is supported by the US Constitution. That is a fact. As a PEOPLE, we defend both the rights of the majority as well as the individual rights of the minority. No, the Supreme Court of the US is the ULTIMATE and final authority of law in this country. Yes, are you suggesting that an armed overthrow of the Supreme Court can result in changing laws...well, LOL, I guess so, but highly unlikely....I hope that is not the type of thing you believe in?? Thats EXACTLY why I asked about the Oath Keepers organization and your opinion?? Its exactly why I asked what your opinion was of Obamacare and AZ law SB1070, because if your view differs from what the Supreme Court decided, then how can the citizens trust that you interrupt, through your conservative lens, a fair judgement of what the US Constitution means. I'm assuming you don't agree with the Supreme Court and still don't...am I right? We are a Republic, governed by a Democracy. My opinion is that you are so far to the extreme right, that your judgment has no place on the Murrieta City Council, but who knows, maybe if you let Gary Stein move in with you, you both could run and if you win you could apply to secede from not only California but the US??
Harry Ramos August 23, 2012 at 07:15 PM
For the record Sam I want to make sure I understand your points of attack on me. Are you accusing an individual who willingly enlisted during a time of war, has deployed three times and was injured in the line of duty, forced out of the service due to these injuries (with a honorable discharge) of not being a patriot??? I find that line of insinuations offensive. Are you also trying to suggest that somehow I am racists??? I also find this offensive. I am a patriot not a revolutionist and I would never perform any act that is treasonous or support any one or organization that has these views. Do I really have to say that I am not racist? I may disagree with some of your views Sam but I still respect them and would never suggest that you are not a patriot or a racist.
Harry Ramos August 23, 2012 at 07:17 PM
The constitution only protects the majority in reference to voting in roundabout way. Everything else is referenced to individual rights not the collective – we are not the Borg Sam, we are a group of individuals who agree to work together. In reference to the people overturning the Supreme Court, it has been done – I would site the cases but I don’t believe you would pay too much attention to history. One way we the people can overturn a Supreme Court decision is by amending the constitution. Sir if you have any questions on the constitution please feel free to email me and I would be happy to give you some great resources on the constitution. In an earlier comment you mentioned that this seat is “a non-partisan job.” Yet all you have done is hit on every partisan issues as well as mostly Federal issues and even bills from other states. I am running for City Council of Murrieta and would be happy to answer any question pertaining to the job or city.
The Republican August 23, 2012 at 07:39 PM
Mr. Ramos this guy Sam Is Jeff Kleiner and he lives in Hidden Meadows in Escondido and is a well known attacker of Conservatives. He pretends he live in Murrieta and pretends he has an interest here. He is a nut. You are wasting your time addressing him. I don't want to say told you so but......
The Republican August 23, 2012 at 08:32 PM
Sure is. Next week it could be another name i guess. Blog names are pretty unreal anyway.... too many people hide behind them.
Sam Bradstreet August 23, 2012 at 10:45 PM
Where did I accuse you of being a racist or not a patriot. I accused you only of being a Right Wing Extremist in your thinking. I highly respect your service...PERIOD!
Sam Bradstreet August 23, 2012 at 10:50 PM
Yes, we can amend it. It is a highly unusual extreme situation, n the U.S. Congress, both the House of Representatives and the Senate approve by a two-thirds supermajority vote, a joint resolution amending the Constitution. Amendments so approved do not require the signature of the President of the United States and are sent directly to the states for ratification. Do you think that we will ever have that happen in this day and age? NO.Then.... To Ratify Amendments Three-fourths of the state legislatures approve it, or Ratifying conventions in three-fourths of the states approve it. This method has been used only once -- to ratify the 21st Amendment -- repealing Prohibition.
The Republican August 23, 2012 at 10:51 PM
I have used my own name and will again. I do it in sarcastic mockery of the moron on here who issues impotent threats and lies blatantly.
The Republican August 23, 2012 at 10:55 PM
HA too funny! Yeah Sam /Jeff Kleiner we know how you will out of one side of your mouth proclaim respect while simultaneously backstab and vilify the very same person. What a nut job.
Sam Bradstreet August 23, 2012 at 10:56 PM
The job is non-partisan, but your reasoning ability is all conservative, to the extreme. I understand in this county Republicans dominate the area, but, we need fair mindedness, not radical, lets recall people attitude. Recall should NEVER be mentioned when there is a disagreement. It should only be used in extreme circumstances. The people have a right to vote and in Murrieta, the right to vote for the candidate of your choice is now gone due to term limits. As a resident and HOMEOWNER of this city, I don't want to hear partisan reasoning. Thats my opinion. I hope I was clear, because anyone who could have said I called you a racist, or not a patriot, cannot read. When reading documents, take your time and read them over and over.
The Republican August 23, 2012 at 11:06 PM
Too funny!! There Jeff Kleiner /Sam goes again! The psycho nut job from Escondido claims to be a "RESIDENT AND A HOMEOWNER" of Murrieta. Sorry Jeff we know where you live and know what you own and where. Your homes in Murrieta are as real as the restraining order you said you filed a week ago. You're a retard ...sorry I mean Libtard....Mentally disabled people are smarter than you.
The Republican August 23, 2012 at 11:12 PM
Its a sad state of affairs when a left wing nut job from Escondido dominates Murrieta blog comments on a candidate. You begin to wonder if Jeff Kleiner lives any kind of life at all.
Nancy Knight August 24, 2012 at 09:50 AM
People of Murrieta. Mr Ramos is a man of political courage. He didn't avoid the question on recall as was predicted by many political pundits. And as Mr. Ramos suggests, people, lots of people, need to stand up for property rights. There were only twenty of us that were rezoned and we had no community support. Mr Ramos will meet with us to see first-hand what happened. I hope you do as he suggests and attend a council meeting, fill out a form for public comments, and stand up for property rights. Rezoning should happen at the request of property owners and not at the whim of city staff who walk your neighborhood.
Diana Serafin August 25, 2012 at 03:40 PM
Nancy, I will support and help you on a recall measure. I just found out that if the voters approve the removal of the camers, the city council will NOT impliment our vote! I have many others ready to help too.
Nancy Knight August 26, 2012 at 08:32 AM
Murrieta has had a Recall Measure in the past and we got rid of one out of the three being recalled, a corrupt politician, Van Haaster who is now a convicted felon. A lot of money was spent by the development industry in this county to keep their chosen candidates from being recalled. They may not have much money these days to fight the will of the people now. And it is not expensive for the citizens but it does take work. Lots of volunteers. I have the petitions. The cost to print them is only a few hundred dollars. The cost to the city for the election is cheap compared to keeping corruption in City Hall in fact I know of a few employees who need to go that would make up for the election cost!!!. Thank you Diana for the support too. There are always many people with different issues who would suppor a recall. I would love to start a list. Email me at nancy@thebugle.com Also, Harry did you get my email about the apointment to see what they rezoned in my neighborhood?
Harry Ramos August 28, 2012 at 07:43 AM
What a pleasant surprise –the food was amazing and I am likely understating just how good the food was. Last Friday was the first time I have eaten at Bella’s and it reinforced my belief that priority one for the city’s business policy must be to not just try to keep our businesses here but foster an environment where they can grow. I must have past this place a million times and never knew it was there. As I was eating I could not help think what it would mean for Bill’s business if a happy medium was reached for proper signage that can be seen from the road.
Harry Ramos August 31, 2012 at 06:39 AM
I want to invite everyone to my first town hall meeting on Wednesday September 5 at 6 PM (Come early to eat) . It will be hosted at Sebastian’s Italian Grill - 39621 Los Alamos Road, Suite B Murrieta Ca, 92563 During this event I want to have a honest two way discussion about the problems facing the City of Murrieta and answer any questions.
Paul September 04, 2012 at 05:11 AM
A woman in a different city had a big fight with her city. She did not want a lawn any more. She wanted to grow tomatoes in raised beds and planted them. She made it into the news when they wanted to put her in jail.
Paul September 04, 2012 at 05:12 AM
A woman in a different city had a big fight with her city. She did not want a front lawn any more. She wanted to grow tomatoes in raised beds in her front yard and planted them. She made it into the news when they wanted to put her in jail.
Paul September 04, 2012 at 05:31 AM
If anyone gets into rezoning, well before that they shouild be aware there is an important earthquake fault zone running through the city with a side branch right through an area where some were talking about trying to get a large multisdtory hotel built. The area between city hall and the steep hills to the west is made up of alluvial fill nearly 4,000 feet deep. Those steeper hills rest on a different "block" than the area east of Madison. The fault runs south into Mexico and north toward Whittier. Through the east side it is a number splinters, but closer to the west side it has a distinct fault line. The center is apx. along Murrieta Creek. It is known as the Elsinore fault zone. It has been fairly quiet, but is considered capable of a large quake.
Paul September 04, 2012 at 05:45 AM
WHOA! This will be necessary to continue development of several more roads needed to ensure adequate traffic circulation in several parts of the city. There is a need to also provide adequate means of travel during emegencies. I think eminent domain may have been required to put together part of the land needed for the new Clinton Keith overpass. Likewise maybe for some of the land for the new California Oaks overpass. Some owners are unwilling to sell at a reasonable price. Many times cities are unwill to pay a fair price too, I have been cheated on that myself by a different city. But if you mean no eminent domain for property to turn over to private businesses that is a separate topic.
Paul September 04, 2012 at 05:52 AM
Don't take "Sam" seriously. He gets his jollies by trying to insult and irritate other persons that comment on almost anything.
Paul September 04, 2012 at 05:58 AM
Well DUH! Probably half the supreme court decisions that are decided 5 to 4 are wrong. But they are imposed on us anyway. Even some of the 6 to 3 decisions are wrong as described by the descent written by the 3 judges.
Paul September 04, 2012 at 06:03 AM
Sometimes a supreme court decision can be overcome by congress changing just a few words in a law and it can then be OK with the supreme court.
Paul September 04, 2012 at 06:13 AM
Sam, this was not about leaving the carts out on the sidewalk. It was about leaving them back by the side of your garage where they are visable by a person walking by on the sidewalk. The city code says that must not be visable. I live in a good neighborhood, and nearly half the homes leave the carts where they are visable from the front sidewalk . The people have "voted" it is OK.

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