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He's Back: Murrieta Council Contenders Include Tea Party Ex-Marine

Among nine possible contenders for two seats are Temecula's former city manager and Gary Stein, who filed candidacy papers less than a week after saying he wouldn't run

Contenders for two Murrieta City Council seats now have until Aug. 15 to file their papers for the Nov. 6 election, but the list of possible candidates continues to grow. Among those filing their candidacy papers on Friday were Gary Stein, the Tea Party ex-Marine.

The former Marine sergeant, who prompted controversy , had announced earlier this week that he seek election to Murrieta City Council.

Patch However, Stein said Aug. 5 he chose not to proceed.

"My wife and I talked it over and decided it is probably not the best time for our family," Stein told Patch then. "But I am going to be at every city council meeting because there are a lot of ridiculous things being done to the citizens of Murrieta."

He apparently reversed course; City Clerk A. Kay Vinson said Friday that Stein has filed papers. It has not yet been determined yet whether he qualifies for the November ballot. Others who have filed papers to declare their candidacies are Joel Phillips, Jr., and David Mueting.

Council member Randon Lane is running for re-election; he has qualified for the ballot. After Doug McAllister said he was not running for re-election, the nomination period was extended to 5:30 p.m. on August 15, the city clerk said.

According to the clerk, others who have pulled papers, signaling a possible run, but have not yet filed them are Harry Ramos, John Paul Serbin, Victor Marx, Paul Clay, and Shawn Nelson, the former longtime Temecula city manager who retired last year.

The city clerk advises: Nomination papers and a candidate packet may be obtained from the City Clerk between 7:30 a.m. to noon and 1:00 p.m. to 5:30 p.m. Monday through Wednesday at Murrieta City Hall, 1 Town Square, Murrieta, CA.  The candidate packet, minus the official filing form and application, is available on the city’s website at:  http://www.murrieta.org/cityhall/clerk/elections.asp.  However, to obtain the official filing form, you must contact the City Clerk department.  Since the process takes approximately one hour, please call 951-461-6035 to schedule an appointment.

Gary Stein August 11, 2012 at 07:45 PM
Gary, I have shown my dd214 show my first enlistment ended honorably thus I will receive all veteran benefits. courts in FL and MO have found red light cameras unconstitutional.
Ricky Ticky August 11, 2012 at 07:46 PM
https://www.facebook.com/ArmedForcesTeaParty/posts/102022476611782 Here's just a simple demonstration of the insanity of this man Gary Stein and his group Armed Forces Tea Party (which, by the way, was a group stolen from another person). I feel sorry for the people of Murrieta if he is elected, as he has displayed that he is more than willing to put his own personal views and opinions above those of the group at large, all in the name of his poor interpretation of the Constitution. Be careful, people of Murrieta, you most definitely do not want to get on his or his groups bad side and called a "domestic enemy" of the United States.
Gary Bonanno August 11, 2012 at 07:49 PM
Doesn't matter how your first enlistment ended. It's the overall characterization on the DD214. FL and MO MAY have found red light cameras to be unconstitutional, but it isn't because they deny you of due process. Or maybe the way that FL and MO did it denied residents of FL and MO of due process. Not the way that it's handled by the Superior Court of California
Gary Stein August 11, 2012 at 07:50 PM
If folks would like to contact me they can email me at info@garysteinforcitycouncil.com. Otherwise I will no long be commenting on this thread since the people that will taking it over are not citizens of murrieta and have nothing better to do then to argue.
The Gorilla August 11, 2012 at 07:53 PM
Gary B. The Red Light Camera is NOT "the same thing as if a police officer pulled you over and gave you a citation." That was a pretty moronic comparison. When an officer pulls you over you realize on the spot that you made a mistake or you didn't and you know whether you legitimately deserved a ticket. With a camera ticket you get it in the mail and now you have to think back and recall where you were a week or two before and remember moment by moment whther you made a mistake or not. Good luck with that! On top of this you have to have trust that the system was calibrated correctly and that the video matches the synchronization of the lights as well as the red light camera system. We know these systems have had many errors in the past. Lastly in this county the judges assume guilt from the start and you have no defense . The judges assume the camera is right. You lose your due process. With a real officer you at least get an officer in court and the right to defend yourself. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME SORRY.
Gary Bonanno August 11, 2012 at 07:56 PM
Of course you won't Gary. Because you don't want the citizens of Murrieta to know the truth. I don't have to be a citizen of Murrieta to expose you as Other Than Honorable, waffling and uninformed about the issues. Like the Paramedic Fee that was just voted in. You call it a tax under a different name. You realize it's a user's fee. You use the service, you pay for it. As opposed to all of the HOMEOWNERS that pay taxes paying for the use. You claim to be against Socialism but the majority paying for the use by the few is socialism.
The Gorilla August 11, 2012 at 07:56 PM
Gary S. Go away. The Libtards in this town won't vote for you and a majority of Republicans won't vote for you. There are a few fringe wack jobs in the MTRA that you have spoken to. Do not come to an MTRA meeting. You will be ripped a new one by those of us that are mainstream. when you falsely think you will be amongst friends.
Delann N Robert Williams August 11, 2012 at 07:59 PM
Gary Stein you did not show the dd 214 with all of the codes... which you do not want people to see because then they will know what you really rate. Gary Bonanno, I doubt but will find out if he rates a folded flag (I may be mistaken but Monday I will call my friend at the VA to find out). How can a disgraceful Marine rate a flag that a Marine who is honorable rates.
Gary Bonanno August 11, 2012 at 08:02 PM
Gorilla, it's NOT a moronic statement. An officer doesn't have to issue you a citation right at that moment. He can choose to do it later. Also, if the bright light flashes, you pretty much know whether it was you or not. You realize that a judge will accept the "professional opinion" of a police officer over yours all day long. You still get the opportunity to fight the red light camera ticket. You go to court, plead not guilty and you will have a hearing at a later date. At the hearing you can present all of your evidence. Calibration records, maintenance records, activation records. Even if you don't get any of that information, but you request it correctly, the judge will usually dismiss the ticket. Just as if you dispute a radar ticket and question the radar calibration. A little research and you can defeat the ticket. So, yeah, they are the same.
Delann N Robert Williams August 11, 2012 at 08:04 PM
He is leaving with his tail between his legs because he does not know how to debate and there is no way to ban or block people. I am not a resident of Murrieta but we are praying that these fine citizens will not elect such a disgraceful Marine such as yourself.
Gary Bonanno August 11, 2012 at 08:18 PM
The sad part is that he makes the people of the Murrieta Patch look bad because he can't make a decision and stick with it. They are trying to do responsible reporting and he keeps flip flopping.
The Gorilla August 11, 2012 at 08:20 PM
No they are not the same pal sorry/ You explaination made no sense and does not reflect the reality of what those issued the ticket experience.. 70% of voters in past elections voted that they felt the same way. We do not trust for profit ATS or those that have been bought off by them. Obviously the forces against the cameras have something to hide and are very shady. Otherwise Steve Flynn and his attorney would have no problem revealing that ATS is behind them . Why do you think they are too frightened to reveal this publicly? You think there would be voter backlash? I think there already will be!
Ricky Ticky August 11, 2012 at 08:20 PM
Seriously? Due process constitutes the ability to go to court and prove your case. Where's the issue?
Gary Bonanno August 11, 2012 at 08:32 PM
My wife was issued one of those tickets. She went to the police station, saw that it was her (driving my car). She chose not to dispute it because she was wrong. But, she received a Summons to Court, just as if a police officer had come to her window. The only difference was that she hadn't signed it. So, technically, you couldn't be charged with Failure To Appear. Especially since the ticket goes to the registered owner. I don't see how it can't make any sense to you. It's a very simple process and one that all motorists should be familiar with. Most people don't want to take the few hours to research and request the right documentation. Apparently, Gorilla, you've never disputed a ticket before.
Paul Barren August 11, 2012 at 08:33 PM
You're not a birther, Stein? That's interesting, because I have a nice screenshot from your Gary Stein facebook page that proves the contrary. Remember your post? You're not only a birther, but also a liar. Too bad your fb page is a gold mine for demasking you as a racist, a liar and a birther. And I have a great idea. I'll make a best-of compilation of my Gary Stein fb page screenshots and I'll forward it to each of the competing candidates. And if I think you're not exposed enough, I'll e-mail them to local newspapers and other media. I'm curious how you're going to become even more entangled in a web of lies than you already are now. I think all this will be the end of your daydreams, sorry dude.
Gary Bonanno August 11, 2012 at 08:46 PM
Gorilla, I'll spell it out for you. If you receive the notice, you don't have to remember where you were or not. Some jurisdictions have you come in and view the photo. Many send you a copy of the picture. It's a quad shot (four pictures on one sheet). The shots show the driver, the light, the front and usually the rear license plate. Digitally imprinted on the photo is the intersection where it was taken, the date, the time and sometimes, the speed that you were traveling through the intersection. You can choose to mail in your payment or you can go to the courthouse. Many people who see that they are wrong CHOOSE to pay the ticket. If you go to the courthouse, you can pay the fine OR choose to see the judge. If you go to see the judge, you have an option to say GUILTY or NOT GUILTY. If you want to dispute the ticket, you say NOT GUILTY. You are given a hearing at a later date. You request the calibration records (best method would be certified mail because it provides you with a receipt that it was signed for) and the maintenance records. If you don't receive them in time for your hearing, bring your receipt with you. You provide your proof (either the records or the receipt) at that point, the judge can decide to dismiss or reset the hearing and provide the jurisdiction with an opportunity to respond. Really simple procedure, if you know about it and take the time. You can read about it in the law library.
W K August 11, 2012 at 08:57 PM
Gary, I'll be in LA next week. I'm staying at the Westin Bonaventure. Give me a call and we can get together to discuss your case. Call me on my mobile. W.K.
The Gorilla August 12, 2012 at 01:54 AM
Gary you cant school; me. I know this process and much more than you will ever know about red light camera tickets. As soon as this is definitely on the ballot I will SCHOOL YOU at the appropriate time when it matters.
Gary Bonanno August 12, 2012 at 02:48 AM
Not trying to school you. Unfortunately, you know neither I nor what I know and don't know. I don't need your schooling, thanks. I know my rights and I know how to utilize them. Just don't be surprised if the red light cameras never get on the ballot and just get voted in by the city council. Not EVERYTHING gets on a ballot.
USMC PRIDE August 12, 2012 at 06:14 AM
W.K. / O'NEILL - Thanks for letting me know where you can be served. Otherwise, I'll have to serve you at the ol homestead, maybe while you're grillin' and chillin'. Call me, you have my number!
David Rush August 12, 2012 at 12:39 PM
Stein, I have witnessed you question the presidents birth certificate. If that isn't a birther I don't know what is.
David Rush August 12, 2012 at 12:46 PM
You are right, Lee got your quote wrong. What you said was "As an Active Duty Marine, I say "Screw Obama" and I will not follow all orders from him.... Will do my job better then the next guy.... But as for saluting Obama as the commander-in-chief .... I will not!". Hows that for a quote? Want to see the screen shot?
David Rush August 12, 2012 at 12:48 PM
By claiming that the president is not the commander in chief, as per the constitution, you are then questioning his birth rights. If that's not a birther, I don't know what is.
David Rush August 12, 2012 at 12:54 PM
Never disobeyed an order? Really? What about your 2nd General Order: "To walk my post in a military manner, keeping always on the alert and observing everything that takes place within sight or hearing." And your 5th General Order? "To quit my post only when properly relieved."
David Rush August 12, 2012 at 01:01 PM
Ticky, good link. If the president is a Muslim as Stein claims, seems Stein want's to violate the presidents protection under the 1st Amendment to freedom of religion.. Stein claims to protect the constitution, but his actions prove that he only protects certain parts for himself.
john smith August 12, 2012 at 03:41 PM
Gary Stein starts his race for a seat by lying to the people of Murrieta! He says above among many things "my career ended with honor" That a bold face LIE gary stein. You were dismissed from the USMC in a time of war with a rating of "Other then Honerable" It's the rating they give those that disgraced the Corps and military. Is what they do when they say you're out and they refuse to allow you in any position of leadedership or responsibility. Folks the USMC knew this guy was trouble and they kicked him out with a nasty rating and discharge. He lies to all of you above and says his career ended with honor. Gary Stein cannot be trusted in any position of authority or leadership. If the USMC went to such drastic measures in a time of war you know this guy is bad news. Next, read his page and many can share screen shots of him and his crowd, attacking gays, hispanics, women that breast feed for starters. A guy who says he founded the facebbok page (he does not run any registered tea party) that has comments like this "lets put a rope around Obamas neck" "one well placed round could solve our problems". This is a guy the secret service and homeland security should be watching becuase of the hate and calls for violence on his page. You want to know about stein? Google the term "gary stein racist" Thats Gary Stein Murrietta and this is my 1st amendment opinon of a self proclaimed public figure wanting to hold office.
Fast Eddy August 12, 2012 at 06:59 PM
Oh please...don't we already have enough issues in Murrieta without bringing this "X'd" Marine into the game? Now let's go look at the rest of the candidates then vote for the lessor of two/three/four evils. Just saying...
William Z. Cohen August 14, 2012 at 07:25 PM
Gary Stein states "I have shown my dd214 show my first enlistment ended honorably thus I will receive all veteran benefits." No Gary Stein, you cannot pick and choose which DD214 you want to show the people. You choose the very LAST DD214...upon discharge from the military. AGAIN, you have an issue with honesty. You cannot tell the truth or the whole truth for the life of you. How did you manage to pick up the rank of sergeant with the serious honesty issues you have? You are a LIAR. You have been a liar for a long time and you contine to lie. You go ahead and run for whatever office you want, you dishonest, selfish little twit and rest assured, there are those who will give to your opponents all the information that is necessary to reveal you for what you are. You are simply the "wolf in sheep's clothing". You like to prey upon the sheep out there who are too weak willed to follow their own heart so you preach the "Chicken Little" style so others will come looking for protection. How does your mother and father deal with you and all of your problems? Did you lie a lot to them as well? I have no clue what is wrong with you but your parents failed you and you then in turn fail your family with your "Other Than Honorable" discharge from the Marine Corps. You are by far oine of the most pathetic individuals I have ever heard about. Wake up and get a real life.
Jo Mama August 20, 2012 at 11:00 PM
This is great... He's not a citizen of Murrieta! Gary Stein 12:50 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012 If folks would like to contact me they can email me at info@garysteinforcitycouncil.com. Otherwise I will no long be commenting on this thread since the people that will taking it over are not citizens of murrieta and have nothing better to do then to argue.
lonnirenee October 18, 2012 at 08:09 AM
Gary Stein, sweetie, those folks you banned from your site just following you everywhere you go. Cant get rid of them. Mmm.. I tell you your words will hunt you. If you did seek election, you gave your political opponents something to fight on against you...YOUR WORDS.

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