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Opposition Rises Against Local Participation in Global Treaty

The Temecula Murrieta TEA Party led a meeting to inform citizens about local cities' involvement in a global effort to streamline sustainable development.

Murrieta and Temecula are among 600 cities that have signed on in recent years as part of a United Nations-led climate awareness and sustainability effort, and a group of citizens met Monday to discuss what they say are the dangers of the agreement.

"When I read the first page, it sounded pretty good. I'm pretty sure our politicians that signed it only read the first page," said Susan Marsh, a founding leader of the Temecula Murrieta TEA Party.

She was referring to U.N. Agenda 21, which over the years Marsh says has morphed into the International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives, or ICLEI.

Temecula signed on in 2009. It is unclear when Murrieta became a member. The city's General Plan Update reiterates its commitment to ICLEI's California Local Government Climate Task Force's goal of sustainable development.

Marsh, a property owner in an unincorporated area near Murrieta, said she traced the initiative's beginnings to 1976 in Europe.

It was then taken before the U.N. in the 1980s, and adopted in 1990 at the World Congress of Local Governments for a Sustainable Future "as a call to action for governments around the world, dedicated to climate protection and sustainability."

Marsh said the initiative threatens to take away property owners' rights, using Murrieta's Los Alamos Hills residents and Temecula Wine Country residents as examples.

She said Los Alamos Hills residents are being forced to give up 20 to 80 percent of their property when applying for building permits, and that Wine Country residents are facing the same danger with proposed resorts, large wineries, time shares and even a golf course.

"Property owners [in Wine Country] are being told they can only have one horse, one goat," Marsh said to a crowd of about 17 who gathered at a Mexican restaurant in Murrieta Monday night. "Bottom line, they are telling them they can't have any animals, or one animal per acre.

"We all moved here for the rural areas, to have our animals."

Marsh's property is "off the grid," but she worries the sustainable develop effort could also creep its way into affecting her property. That is when she said she decided to learn more about Agenda 21.

"I've heard of conspiracy theories...I wanted to see how this was going to affect me.

"Agenda 21 wants to get you off your land, and move you to the city and stack you up."

She said the reason ICLEI has targeted communities is because it couldn't get its agenda passed through Congress.

George Rombach, a Temecula resident, said ICLEI's goal is to infiltrate the cities one by one.

"We have to be involved in our city governments," Rombach said. "It was obvious Temecula was not aware in the slightest what they had signed on for."

Keith Broaders, a Murrieta resident, said the group should lobby enough people together to petition the District Attorney for a grand jury investigation into the matter, to "investigate whether the local cities are violating the Constitution by signing a treaty with the U.N."

Several Murrieta residents spoke at a recent Murrieta City Council meeting, asking the Council to look into the reason for its involvement with ICLEI.

Rob July 12, 2011 at 10:36 PM
It is clear you are not much of a reader, given it is owned by the uber liberal HuffPost. PS: Global warming is a hoax.
LBV Collins July 14, 2011 at 05:54 AM
<sigh> Major, if I Google “why did Obama sign Executive Order 13575,” I get page after page of search results claiming it’s an Agenda 21 take-over of rural lands by the Federal Government to force landowners to be Green, or else… and all was done behind our backs during the White House’s “Weiner Scandal” smoke screen. AND… we’re just one step away from One World Government. Okay, that’s one view. (And, honestly, it sounds a lot like Chicken Little running around screaming, “The sky is falling! That sky is falling!”) I really want to see the opposing view, too, so that I can gain a better understanding of the pros and cons of Executive Order 13575. What do I mean by “sounds a lot like Chicken Little running around?” Check out this Fox News video: http://youtu.be/_juUVKKBw-k. This clip strikes me as a lot of hyperbole and conjecture supported by no facts. (I have heard some accuse Fox News of being less journalism and more tabloid, and after viewing this video, I see why they make that claim.)
LBV Collins July 14, 2011 at 05:55 AM
By the way: Obama didn’t sign Agenda 21. He signed Executive Order 13575 (http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/DCPD-201100431/pdf/DCPD-201100431.pdf), which is intended as a way to “…promote economic prosperity and quality of life in our rural communities.” That doesn’t sound too evil to me, but of course, I’m sure there are those who will assume I naively drank the Kool-Aid and have been duped by the liberal powers that be. Nonetheless, I consider myself to be of reasonable intelligence, and when someone can present me with reasonable facts to support their position, they can sway me to their point of view. But when I see people claiming that the clear, singular purpose of Executive Order 13575 is to impose One World Government on US Citizens, I immediately become suspicious of those making such extreme claims… and am inclined to dismiss their views as one-sided and unreliable.
Diana Serafin July 14, 2011 at 01:02 PM
Althea -Google search ICLEI Murrieta and Kelly Bennett comes up as the Murrieta representative. Any google search for ICLEI will show Murrieta is a member. Democrats, Republicans, Independents, & Tea Parties are fighting this across the nation. How about this site: www.DemocratsAgainstUNAgenda21.com This is about our Constitution, freedom and rights not about any party. Please educate yourself and find out what is really going on and how our cities are selling us out for money and control of us. Temecula has already build the required UN buildings in Old Town. The new red brick building is one.
Diana Serafin July 14, 2011 at 01:05 PM
That is why I am fighting too - my children and grandchildren. Thank you Major.
Popeye July 15, 2011 at 04:07 AM
You got to be the clerk at Walmart. Thanks for the cart.
Keith Broaders July 15, 2011 at 01:25 PM
The Political Spectrum with Communiism on the Left and Fascism on the Right was originally based upon where the political parties were seated in the parlianments of Europe. The spectrum is like a seating chart for people based on their poitical philosophies. Measuring the amount of political power that a governemtn has is a much more useful tool. In the model I am using, a left wing government controls everything while there is absolutely no government on the left wing. In either case the people are not free. I think that you will agree that somewhere between Anarchy on the rights and Tyranny of the left there is an ideal place on the spectrum where there is the people's unalienable rights can be honored and the governments power can be restrained. I appreciate those of you that take the time to post comments on the Patch hopefully we can help to educate one another so that we can help to steer our friends and neighbors in a diretion that will lead us to peace, prosperity and freedom. Education is the key making America a place where true equal justice is available to all and people are free to succeed or fail on the basis on their own usage of their time, talent and initiative.
Keith Broaders July 15, 2011 at 01:30 PM
Alot of people have opinions that are based on a lack of knowledge or understanding. People that draw conclusion based of facts and the application of reason are not likely to be conned by those that wish to enslave you. If you want to find the answers you must think outside of the box. The adage of "Garbage in, Garbage Out" pretty well exlains why most Americans don't have the slightest clue about the why Congress is wrong virtually 100% of the time.
Diana Serafin July 16, 2011 at 01:55 PM
Major, I agree every comment. The dumbing down of America is obviously working and we can see it on this site. We give links and video's for peopple to educate themselves and they get nasty. I am passing out flyers and tell people to do their homework. Everyone has been very receptive and comments on what is happening to our freedoms. The word is getting out what about Agenda 21 and ICLEI. Keep up the good work spreading the word. For the ones who do not believe, or are too stupid to educate themselves, pray they wake up before it is too late. By the way, the Walmart clerks are not stupid people!
Popeye July 16, 2011 at 03:10 PM
It's not your country explains your bitterness and lack of knowledge.
Keith Broaders July 17, 2011 at 03:16 AM
Major, Thank you for posting the two awesome videos. Education of the masses on the principles of liberty and individual responsibility is the key. We must control our government or our government will most assuredly control us. Thank you for your contributions.
LBV Collins August 17, 2011 at 07:10 PM
To Major: I received your email (via Patch notification) that you deleted your comments from this post. I’m sad you did. In your final comment (which is no longer visible), you note that “commenting on these forums is not safe.” I’m very sorry that you feel this way, and very concerned that you may fear for your safety. I certainly hope that you weren’t threatened by someone commenting on Patch. If so, I suggest you contact Patch and make them aware of the threats and encourage Patch to take the appropriate steps. I believe that something we all hold very dear is our right to free speech and to share our views in an open forum. While our discussions may become heated due to our passions, there is no reason for someone to cross the line and threaten another person. That’s terrorism and something none of us should tolerate. You mention that “the irritation of dealing with certain characters” on this forum is not worth your participation. Here again, I‘m sorry to hear this. Diana Serafin and Keith Broaders both support and applaud your views and obviously enjoy your comments and participation. And while you and I may not see eye-to-eye, I also support your participation and defend you right to speak your mind.
LBV Collins August 17, 2011 at 07:11 PM
In your final comment, you also note that you are “moral and God loving.” I believe you. Major, I encourage you to stay the course, to continue expressing your point of view, and to continue participating in this open forum. As participants, we have no idea who may be reading what we write, and how we may be impacting their views and perspectives. By sharing our thoughts and ideas, we are providing others the opportunity to better develop their opinions… and we just might sway them to our point of view. But by not sharing your thoughts and ideas, no one will have the opportunity to learn from you. Thank you for suggesting that we listen to Alex Jones of Infowars. I’ll check it out. Best regards, LBV Collins
Diana Serafin August 17, 2011 at 07:50 PM
Major, we all deal with extermists and I have even been threatened from a off duty policeman regarding the cameras. I have been called many ugly names by some extermist. A few extermists have used extermine foul language. Please don't give up. We must keep up the fight to save our Constitution, and our God given rights, not only for us but our children and gradnchildren. As I am doing the petition for the Cameras and stop SB48, I talk to hundreds of people like you and me. My faith is restores. One out of 100 is a nut job and uneducated! I register about 20 people a day to vote. These people understand what is going on in our country. So please keep the faith and keep blogging.
Brad Jones February 06, 2013 at 05:58 AM
This list shows Murrieta as belonging to ICLEI: http://procinctu.info/iclei-list-members-agenda-21-implementation/
Brad Jones February 06, 2013 at 06:32 PM
UN Agenda 21: Real sustainability vs. activist sustainability http://epaabuse.com/11003/editorials/real-sustainability-vs-activist-sustainability/?utm_source=EPA+Abuse&utm_campaign=abd95c4183-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email
Fortified- AKA Carlos Danger February 24, 2014 at 11:55 PM
AGENDA 21...A CONSPIRICY? ....I would call it an open fact. Our beds are burning and everyone is asleep Is it really crazy to believe the government wants to do such a thing? HERE, LET THE GOVERNMENT TELL YOU. IT IS NOW COMING FULL ON THIS LINK IS THE GOVERNMENT! ( http://www.dfg.ca.gov/habcon/connectivity/ )
Fortified- AKA Carlos Danger February 24, 2014 at 11:57 PM
Everything that is worked on, built, or changed is now under the guide of agenda 21 as the link above. This is a map of the U.S as they plan. ( http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/agenda21.jpeg )
Fortified- AKA Carlos Danger February 25, 2014 at 12:01 AM
Simply go to the government link above....and read up. If anyone want other info let me know. Sometimes one simple step as here, is better than getting real thick in it. So start here, as I posted above: ( ( http://www.dfg.ca.gov/habcon/connectivity/ )
LBV Collins February 25, 2014 at 05:56 PM
Geez... @Fortified- AKA eyecu... You still buying into this "One World Government" crap? (That's a rhetorical question.) Ya' know, the world as you perceive it must be a very scary place. But just because you believe it, doesn't make it so. (You should should try not being so paranoid. Sit back. Relax. Watch a movie... a comedy, perhaps.)
Fortified- AKA Carlos Danger February 25, 2014 at 06:01 PM
Those that can't discuss the issue attack the person
john ryerson February 25, 2014 at 06:43 PM
as i have stated before, this is about the NEW WORLD ORDER. its about controlling the people which is what obamacare is all about.
LBV Collins February 25, 2014 at 09:28 PM
@Fortified- AKA eyecu: If you think I was attacking you, then I apologize. (Sincerely... I apologize.) My intent was to point out that fearing Agenda 21, et.al., is needless. No one is coming to take your land and force you into a highrise condo. Regarding my suggestion that you relax and not be so paranoid, I'm serious. I'm not name-calling. What you fear isn't real, in my opinion.
LBV Collins February 25, 2014 at 09:31 PM
@john ryerson: Your "Obamacare" comment is ludicrous. I don't know where you get your intel from, but you need to find a new source.
Fortified- AKA Carlos Danger February 25, 2014 at 09:41 PM
Yes, I believe you. I just finished some other places where obnoxious vile comments are the only method of communication, and I was actually rethinking my reply. Thanks for responding. Forget all the hype from anyone on either side, and let me simply ask the following. 1) Do you know much about agenda 21?------------------------- 2) If I showed you government documents, and government websites that precisely express how they plan to take property away would you feel different?------------------------------------ BUT WAIT! THEIRS MORE! 3) Number two was a warm-up. If I showed government websites, and bills pushing through government that WILL, AND ARE taking property, AND not only government, but unelected people to take your land for agenda 21.....THEN would you believe it? Yes, it is just this simple, Your future is just a website away! "stop the madness"! (humor intentional)
LBV Collins February 25, 2014 at 10:27 PM
@Fortified- AKA eyecu: "1) Do you know much about agenda 21?" I read the 40 chapter document online several years ago. Though I'm not an expert. / "2) If I showed you government documents, and government websites that precisely express how they plan to take property away would you feel different?" No. I researched this several years ago. I'm quite satisfied there's nothing to worry about. / "3) Number two was a warm-up. If I showed government websites, and bills pushing through government that WILL, AND ARE taking property, AND not only government, but unelected people to take your land for agenda 21.....THEN would you believe it?" Truthfully, this is a resolved issue for me. So the short answer is, "No." However, feel free to give me the gist of #3, and I'll consider it. (As long as you're not talking about Eminent Domain.) / And here's something for you to ponder: A brief synopsis of the “scary” parts of Agenda 21: http://www.betterworldcampaign.org/news-room/web-articles/agenda-21.html
Fortified- AKA Carlos Danger February 25, 2014 at 11:33 PM
I read the link. Ted Turners site. But realistically a cheer leader for the cause. You basically state you know what you need. You also state you are basically concerned about property rights only if it doesn't concern Eminent Domain. However, that is exactly how the legality of property confiscation is manifested. So in keeping with the low key approach, I will give you the links that I think are helpful, and you can check if you really do understand what is now happening. THE FOLLOWING IS THE CALIFORNIA STATE BLUEPRINT: The plan makes no distinction between public, and private property for changing land use. Every improvement, expansion, etc will need to work in coordination before work. ( http://www.dfg.ca.gov/habcon/connectivity/ ) LETS JUMP TO SB1 THAT WAS CLOSE TO THE GOVERNERS DESK BUT GOT SHELVED LAST MONTH You state that eminent domain doe not alarm you. However the laws of eminent domain would be greatly expanded to unelected officials for taking property any reason environmental under the agenda 21 plan. ( http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/13-14/bill/sen/sb_0001-0050/sb_1_cfa_20130307_114042_sen_comm.html ) AGENDA 21.....non-binding? It is about to change life as we know it. Binding? state, and federal is as binding as you can get. I am not going to go in to any conspiracy. Just inform you of the long reach of this. It is not some simple ecology plan. Other reading if you are interested: HERE IS SOME OF THE OPPOSITION: ( http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/ ) THIS ONE IS EXTRA CREDIT: ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgMZegvtXB0 )
john ryerson February 26, 2014 at 05:07 AM
lbv collins you need to wake up. did you know that in the obama care law buried deep within by law you will have to take the verachip either in your right hand or forhead. time to wake up!
LBV Collins March 21, 2014 at 11:41 AM
@Fortified- AKA eyecu: Okay, I read SB 1. I also perused the http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/ website. I don't see anything that causes concern. SB 1 is just a replacement for the now defunct Redevelopment Agencies. And those agencies were charged with redeveloping blighted areas within towns and cities in order to sustain property values. This is nothing new. This has nothing to do with stealing our private property and forcing us into high rise concentration camps à la Agenda 21. This isn't about One World Government. It's just a method to rebuild blighted communities. There's no conspiracy. Please, relax. And now, here's some reading for you (I hope it eases your concerns): http://articles.latimes.com/2013/sep/22/opinion/la-ed-redevelopment-20130922
LBV Collins March 21, 2014 at 11:50 AM
@john ryerson: We already have a verachip in our hand. It's called a smartphone. (I'm serious.) Nanobots: "...tiny robots that tell your smartphone when somethings wrong. [There's a] chip that's embedded in your skin and can warn you up to four hours before you're going to have a heart attack. [And] pills with microchips in them that send signals from your belly to your smartphone." Soon, there will be new nanobots, ones that could possibly seek out and destroy cancer cells. http://gizmodo.com/smartphones-arent-doctors-but-theyre-trying-to-be-511099164

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