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Alleged Workers' Comp Fraudster Due in Court

John Jose Ramirez is accused of fraudulently collecting Workers' Compensation while running his own business in Murrieta.

A preliminary hearing date was set for a man who allegedly scammed a Murrieta business owner out of Workers' Compensation money while working elsewhere.

John Jose Ramirez, 49, allegedly accepted Workers' Compensation from Andy's Glass & Window Co., 25751 Jefferson Ave.; he could face three years in prison if convicted of fraud. 

Riverside County Superior Court Judge Becky Dugan set the date to Oct. 25 for a preliminary hearing, according to court records.

A preliminary hearing is a sort of mini-trial during which the prosecution presents evidence for a judge to decide whether the case should move to trial.

Defense attorneys can cross examine witnesses but do not always do so.

Ramirez allegedly was accepting wages from the compensation fund while working elsewhere and remaining active.

He allegedly hurt his knee in 2008, according to Rachel Naylor, who owns the business with her husband, Mike.

The couple initially kept him on in an office setting but after Ramirez allegedly made threats against an employee, the Naylors fired him.

Sometime within the next few years, said Naylor, she was aware of Ramirez collecting Workers' Comp while reportedly running his own glass business and remaining very active.

But it was not until 2011 that a case was filed against Ramirez, who is being represented by a deputy public defender, according to court records.

Betty Goodman September 23, 2012 at 05:26 PM
The DA and the owners are friends, how do you think this is going to turn out? lol Really, more people in power using their power for the greater bad. Just like in Bell when all of the city officials had to be cleaned out. The owners have a restraining order on the guy but show up in court. I am a business owner and have been through this but to put it in the paper and glorify this issue is bull. The owners just want to generate business.
M. Lee Davis September 23, 2012 at 09:34 PM
Wow, how do you know that the D.A. and business owner are are friends? Do you have any proof to back this up? You shouldn't state facts like these unless you can prove it. Makes it sound like you have something against the business owners yourself. You loose all credibility when you make statements like this.
Betty Goodman September 24, 2012 at 06:10 PM
Betty Goodman Dear M. Lee Davis I understand what you are saying. I again have had this happen to me with an x-employee. But when you go to the court and see the DA and the the owners happy and smiling and saying "its nice to see you again" one jumps to conclusions. I do not know the owners its just justice should be fair.

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