Murrieta Mormons Pray for Rain

On Sunday, Mormons in Murrieta, and throughout the state, fasted and prayed in a united effort of faith, asking for God to send needed rain.

Zeraphath and the Prophet Elijah
Zeraphath and the Prophet Elijah
Under the direction of President Thomas S. Monson, who Mormons recognize as a Prophet of God, California members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints , united in prayers of faith, on Sunday, to petition God and ask Him to intervene in the current drought, by sending the necessary rainfall that is needed to relieve the shortage of water as a result of having another year without adequate precipitation, and with a dismal outlook for 2014.

Along with prayers of faith, members fasted for the same 24 hours. Mormons believe that the combination of fasting and prayer, is a way to show God that we are humble, and that we acknowledge our complete dependence upon Him.

“Then shalt thou call, and the Lord shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. … The Lord shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, … and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.” Isa. 58:9, 11

As I'm sitting here writing this post, after midnight, I've  suddenly realized that I am hearing the sound of rain coming down off my roof and hitting the back patio. It's a comforting sound, and confirms, to me, that God not only hears our prayers, but that He answers sincere prayers. 

I know that the amount of rain necessary to really make a difference, is going to require many days of steady rain. Which means, continued prayer by those who recognize His power to actually do, what we have asked Him to do. I believe He can, and I believe that He will, if those who believe that He can, join together in a united act of faith.

Earlier today, I was thinking about the widow Zarephath and her obedience to the counsel of Elijah, the Prophet. Her simple faith to believe what he told her, and make the necessary sacrifice, is a great lesson to all of us. By doing what he asked of her, she was blessed, and her family, and protected against the famine, until the Lord sent rain.

Today, not only are we experiencing a physical drought of water, but symbolically, there is a drought, or famine, of moral values in society. Like Zarephath, we can trust that the Lord is mindful of us, and has provided, through faith, the means to protect us, and our families.

I believe that God is the same yesterday, today and forever. Meaning, we can trust Him. We can know that He will do today, what He's done before, if we are obedient to His commandments.

--Kathryn Skaggs 

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Jeff Kleiner February 05, 2014 at 12:32 PM
Their are so many religions that teach theories that can never be proven, but are the basis of the religions.....Seven Day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Muslims and Mormons come to mind. It only teaches us to know about what makes these religions make sense to some and totally bizarre to others. Being bizarre does not mean wrong.
G.G. February 05, 2014 at 12:43 PM
@Kathryn, it's too bad that you feel you need to hide the true teachings of your church. Doesn't that bother you? Don't YOU have doubts and questions too? From a religion that demands 100% complete honesty from it's members it seems odd. It surely appears that it causes you to be fearful of a truthful discussion on here and it would bother me to be a part of any group that I was ashamed of and embarrassed to discuss what their beliefs are. (Now you can hit "delete")
Kathryn February 05, 2014 at 12:47 PM
@JeffK, I take no issue with your position, whatsoever. At the same time, I am perfectly within my right to determine the conversations that I choose to address on this limited platform/blog, which I decide meet the reasons for the genuine effort I want to provide here on Patch. For readers who find the limited content of any individual provided helpful, then they are served well. To assume an individual's presence, or affiliations entitle their response to all inquiries they might make is ludicrous and when persistent becomes abusive.
Kathryn February 05, 2014 at 12:56 PM
Jeff, I am perfectly okay with having some feel that my faith is "bizarre" - very understandable. And appreciate genuine inquiries to seek understanding in lan appropriate and respectful manner.
Alek J Hidell February 05, 2014 at 01:06 PM
i would like to know the difference between Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists, Latter Day Saints, and many other popular cults in the USA. Carry on, educator...
Kathryn February 05, 2014 at 01:40 PM
I have changed the name of the blog to better reflect the purpose of the blog, and to clarify its scope. By doing so, I invite those interested in the limited information it provided, personal and local to the valley, to continue to read and engage. For those seeking more information relating to Mormonism you are invited to visit Mormon.org.
Jeff Kleiner February 05, 2014 at 01:43 PM
None are cults Alek....all are Christians believing Christ dies for our sins.......its only ther evangelical right that call them cults. Cults are religions that call for committing suicide, that a spaceship is coming for them.....unreasonable beliefs. Usually they call for all the persons money or livelihoods in return for whatever they get from the leaders....ala Jim Jones
G.G. February 05, 2014 at 02:04 PM
Ok Kathryn, I'm done posting on your blog as you continue to delete all my honest and respectful posts just because they contain the truth. Why do you have a blog if you don't want people to discuss things with you and ask questions?
Kathryn February 05, 2014 at 02:36 PM
I am more than happy to engage with those who are respectful, not only with words, but with genuine questions. I am not willing to engage with anyone who asks questions, with intentional purpose to distort, mock, or create further opportunity to hijack this blog and use it to advocate in opposition. Please read the description for this blog.
ChrisG February 05, 2014 at 05:03 PM
@Kathryn, It is amusing that you have deleted so many comments even though they are not offensive, at least in the regular definition. I wonder how effective your blog will be if you continue deleting comments. For example, my last comment was not offensive or mocking yet you removed it instead of responding. Perhaps you are not well suited to administer a blog such as this. Good luck to you.
Jeff Kleiner February 05, 2014 at 05:58 PM
Kathryn, What do Mormons believe about the poor, including "illegal aliens" and African Americans? What do we do with the poor in this country? Talk to me about the important issue of gay marriage and why Mormons are so strongly against it...thanks.
Kathryn February 05, 2014 at 06:22 PM
My apologies, @ChrisG. I was on my cell phone when your last comment was deleted, unintentionally. Apparently the page was in the process of loading and when I went to delete a previous comment to your last, it reflected on your comment being deleted. I assure you, that I am very successful at writing and moderating the various places that I have a presence, online, thus building strong communities among those who have respect for all beliefs, ideologies and opinions whether shared or contrary, and who desire to understand more about my faith, respecting the community at large. An important element of developing any positive community, is ensuring that all who choose to engage are assured that the environment to do so is emotionally safe and friendly. Anything less, then most good people will move on and allow the trolls to dig themselves to China.
Jeff Kleiner February 05, 2014 at 06:33 PM
Kathryn, you have to be truthful here, please agree with me that the Mormon religion has morphed or changed over time to agree with local laws yet Bible principles have not changed....is that correct?
Kathryn February 05, 2014 at 06:41 PM
@JeffK, may I recommend a visit to the "Mormon Newsroom", where all of the topics that you've raised are addressed. http://mormonnewsroom.org * * I will, however, take the opportunity to share more about the humanitarian efforts of the Church, in the near future. As well, share my thoughts about the family, from a Mormon perspective. That is, if we can manage to work out the bugs here, and create a space where we can actually engage in meaningful, respectful dialogue on the topics presented. I sincerely hope that the Patch will do all that they can to facilitate such an environment, for our community.
LAKE ELSINORE RESIDENT February 05, 2014 at 06:46 PM
I know I have family who is Catholic and they are planning on creating the Catholic Corner for the Patch.
Kathryn February 05, 2014 at 07:01 PM
Jeff, the LDS Church has made many policy changes over the years, for various reasons, which in my opinion should be viewed as a positive. Doctrine, on the other hand, does not change to accommodate social changes -- although I'm aware that progressive Mormons and apostate members advocate that it has and will. (Which is what you are eluding to, and won't be engaged here.) However, the official position of the LDS Church is firm in its position in regarding its doctrines, which affect policies and positions taken, on social issues, by the Church; viewed as moral and not political.
Jeff Kleiner February 05, 2014 at 10:19 PM
So Kathryn with that said that there has been change,,,,,,why can't Biblical policies change also? The two scriptures concerning homosexuality came at a time when God was uging the people to be fruitful and fill the world. If I was God, it would be an abomination if people were wasting their lives not trying to have babies. But by the time Jesus had arrived, he made no mention of homosexuality at all. Can't times change??? We don't follow Biblical rules on slavery and indentured servitude.....why? because times have totally changed and NOW slavery is the abomination, even though sanctioned in the Bible. So I argue as time changes so does all of the rules of the game to fit society.
Vic February 05, 2014 at 11:19 PM
1 Corinthians 6:9(NIV), Jeff. It was recorded by Paul but I believe that was Jesus' time or shortly thereafter.....
Kathryn February 06, 2014 at 01:56 AM
Thank you, Vic. JeffK, as I said in my previous comment, there is a difference between policies and doctrine, which is what is missing in most of the conversations advocating that Mormon doctrine, could someday change; it can't. It never has and it never will. Policies in the LDS Church change, continually, according to various circumstances during a given period of time and/or to adjust to the need of Church growth, current membership, etc. However, doctrine (eternal law/principles/truth) does not; it is fixed and immovable and is the foundation upon which policies are made. Doctrine is God’s law pertaining to right and wrong, or good and evil and is not subjective. Christians, all of us, regardless of denomination, accept the Bible as the "Word" of God; His law. And in that book, considered sacred to Christians, it teaches a very important principle/truth about the nature of God that He is the "same yesterday, today and forever.” Mormonism accepts a living prophet, as in the days of Adam, Noah, Abraham, etc. and therefore, we believe that God reveals His will, pertaining to our day, through His Prophet, who then directs the affairs of the Church, today. Mormons view having a prophet a great benefit in a world that speculates on things, such as what you’ve raised: interpretation of scripture.
ChrisG February 06, 2014 at 10:14 AM
Hey, it sprinkled a little this morning. Kathryn's crew was at it again. :)
Kathryn February 06, 2014 at 01:09 PM
Please see description for this blog. Defending or debating Mormonism is not included. However, I am happy to respond to general questions, if it is not clearly evident that it's intended to provoke controversy. Thank you.
Tom Smith February 06, 2014 at 01:55 PM
Kathryn, as a local active member of the church, I find how you've been deleting all posts that have asked good question to be very troubling. Are you embarrassed of our beliefs? Are you so lacking in understanding that you don't feel you can defend our beliefs? You deleted all the really, really great comments on here that opened up a huge opportunity for you to discuss Mormon teachings and beliefs. This blog is hugely disappointing and I can't imagine it'll be a success for you.
Kathryn February 06, 2014 at 02:32 PM
Tom, please feel free to launch a blog yourself, if you feel me incompetent, or file a complaint with the Patch sharing your concerns. Regards, Kathryn
LAKE ELSINORE RESIDENT February 06, 2014 at 03:49 PM
We will go to the Bishop to file our complaints sister.
Steve Newman February 06, 2014 at 04:03 PM
LER- what are you like the UN telling the Catholic church to watch their ways. K can speak as she wishes- as can you. Trying to silence her is wrong.
Tom Smith February 06, 2014 at 07:38 PM
Hey Kathryn, I don't have the time to run my own blog right now, but I would have loved to have been a support to you on here. I did not see anything posted that could not have been openly and honestly discussed (whether it be polygamy or the Priesthood ban for blacks or financial questions about the LDS corporation). I will still check in here to see if I can add anything. I just found it curious that you'd start a blog about Mormons in Murrieta and then delete nearly all the questions you received about our religion. Discussion is good. Debate is good. We have the truth on our side and there's nothing to fear or hide. But when you continuously delete posts from people with questions, it appears you feel you do.
Kathryn February 06, 2014 at 07:47 PM
Thank you, Tom. And please appreciate the description of the blog and its purpose, which states nothing about defending or debating Mormonism, as I don't have the time for it, either.
Ron Mexico March 02, 2014 at 04:51 PM
So long as ALL RELIGIONS keep their belief systems out of the lives of those who don't worship, IDGAF what they want to do. Pray away, I say!
Steve Newman March 02, 2014 at 05:00 PM
Ron- not to sound smart aleky- but amen to that.-
Ron Mexico March 02, 2014 at 05:02 PM
Couldn't help yourself huh? Had to bring up Alek!! I kid, I kid! Thanks man.


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