POLL: Big Business Pressured To Take Stand On Gay Rights

Chick-fil-A took a stand on gay marriage this week—a trend that may be due to pressure from gay right's advocates.

Pressure from gay right’s advocates may have led the top official fast-food chain Chick-fil-A—which has a —to take a public position on same-sex marriage.

This week Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy said his privately-owned company is against gay unions.

Chad Griffin, president of the gay right’s non-profit Human Rights Campaign, said in a released statement Thursday that Chick-fil-A "has finally come clean" after hiding in the closet.

“Chick-fil-A is headed by a man who is proud of his company’s anti-LGBT giving and has made some extremist statements concerning marriage equality. Consumers now have to decide if that’s the kind of company they want to give their money to,” the Human Rights Campaign statement read.

This week when the Chick-fil-A president declared his company’s “guilty as charged” position on gay marriage, he added, “We’re inviting God’s judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at Him and say we know better than You as to what constitutes marriage.”

Human Rights Campaign and other organizations like it have pressured top government officials and business leaders to state their positions on gay marriage and gay rights, claiming that voters and consumers have a right to know.

Human Rights Campaign currently hosts a website that includes a “Buyer’s Guide” that rates businesses and brands on equality practices. Out of a possible score of 100, Chick-fil-A received a zero from Human Rights Campaign.

Other local restaurants rated by Human Rights Campaign include Starbucks, which received a score of 95; McDonald’s scored 75; Burger King scored 55; Domino’s Pizza scored 35; Wendy’s scored 30; and Jack in the Box scored 15.

Click here to read more about Human Rights Campaign’s scoring model and how it rates other national businesses that have a local presence.

Tonya July 20, 2012 at 10:32 PM
Henry- I would like to add to what Loren said. 1.5% ? Did you mean this to represent atheists, agnostics? Because the number is 1.5 million, or 20% of the population. There are far more people than you think that have freed themselves from the chains of religion. Regardless of what faith you follow, or lack there of, Chik fil a is using their business to promote hate and bigotry. I have not supported chik fil a for several years now.
Tonya July 20, 2012 at 10:56 PM
To everyone claiming marriage is some divine right ordained by god, I am going to burst your bubble. Marriage has existed in every culture, pre dating Christianity by thousands of years. Babylonians, Sumerians, Mesopotamians all married. They did not even know anything about your god. In fact most rituals used in today's "Christian" weddings are borrowed from pagan cultures pre dating the Abrahamic religions. These rituals include the veil, the walk with your father to the alter, who gives this woman speech, the wedding ring , and so on. Your god did not create marriage. You cannot define it for everyone else. And to the woman who said gays wanted to married for personal property- shame on you. Is that why you married? I am married . I love my husband. What tax breaks and other incentives I would receive did not factor into my descion. You have no heart.
Raymond Luna July 20, 2012 at 11:03 PM
I want to say Thank You Loren Scott for being such a great supporter of LBGT rights. I will say as a gay man myself I grew up in a family that had so much hate for anyone that wad gay and made Me fear who was raising Me. They dragged to Me to church and I would sit and listen to what the pastor had to say and once thought maybe it was Me that was wrong of who I was. If it wasnt or My bestfriend and His family I would have never know what love was or having a family is. They thought Me to love family, love people who are going to be there in ur life no matter what. After I had come out to them later in life, in my 20's they loved Me with open arms as My family did not. Cyclist, the bible really DOES not teach love nor does it teach HATE. I know you did not want to here My story, but you should know after reading your comments I still dont hate you, but you are just mislead in your views of what gay/lesbians are. We are humans ourselves derseve to be treated as much. Just please dont compare our time we live in now to Hitler and Jews. This sitution we live in now is no were near that time period.
Ryan July 25, 2012 at 03:05 AM
Since when did supporting a traditional definition of marriage make me anti-gay? Supporting traditional marriage does not make one any more anti-gay than supporting same sex marriage makes someone anti-christian. There are plenty of people, Christian or not, that hate gay people. There are plenty of gay people that hate Christians and others. I wish businesses could stick to business and keep their noses out of politics. Long gone are the days where a company's products or services sold themselves and they didn't need boycotts and anti-boycotts to con me into walking through their front doors.
Ryan July 25, 2012 at 03:09 AM
I won't be eating at Chick-Fil-A, not because they support traditional marriage, but because they server overpriced and under portioned chicken. I won't be drinking Starbucks, not because they support same sex marriage, but because their coffee is NOT gold laden, as their prices imply.
LBV Collins July 25, 2012 at 03:34 AM
My sentiments exactly, Loren.
LBV Collins July 25, 2012 at 03:36 AM
Well said, Loren!
LBV Collins July 25, 2012 at 03:38 AM
(Loren SOOOO rocks!)
LBV Collins July 25, 2012 at 03:40 AM
Bravo, Loren! (I LOVE it when people use facts to back up their points!)
LBV Collins July 25, 2012 at 03:46 AM
Poignant story, Jill. I'm sincerely sorry for your loss and I am ashamed that our nation turned it's back on you and your family. And I am deeply grateful for your wife's service to our Country.
LBV Collins July 25, 2012 at 03:48 AM
Couldn't have said it better myself, Tonya...
LBV Collins July 25, 2012 at 03:50 AM
Thanks for sharing, Raymond!
Mike July 28, 2012 at 03:26 AM
Loren, how exactly is this guy discriminating? He says he and his company are against same sex marriage, but do they refuse service to anyone who is gay? Do they refuse to hire gay employees? There is absolutely no evidence that they do either of those. In fact, this company is made up of franchisees who hire many local people and as far as is known, have never had a discrimination case brought against them. Please understand, I'm not a church going person, I haven't been to chucrh, other than weddings, in around 30 years. I am however, a firm believer in our right to free speech. I do agree you have yours and the CEO has his. However, do not accuse someone of discrimination unless you have proof. There have been no accusations of discrimination against Chick-Fil-A. Boycott all you want, that is your right, however, do not falsely accuse someone of something illegal.
Mike July 28, 2012 at 03:54 AM
Uh, Tonya, sorry, 1.5 million is not 20% of the population. 20% of the population would be about 60 million people. I'm pretty sure that there are not 60 million athesists in the country right now. As I have said in an earlier post, I'm not a practicing Christian, so please do not label me as one. However, please get your facts right. There are opinions on both sides of this and we should all respect each other. Unfortunately, respect is something that seems to be lost, on both sides, in this Country any more.
Loren Scott July 28, 2012 at 09:43 PM
You are right, Mike! Tonya's number of 1.5 million is NOT 20% of the population. But, you are wrong to assume that 20% of the population (~60 million of the current 313 million Americans) are non-believers, because -- it is true! Check out the facts at this Gallup poll from 2010 (http://www.gallup.com/poll/128276/Increasing-Number-No-Religious-Identity.aspx) that shows that (two years ago) 16% of the U.S. population do not claim any religious identity. Two years ago! By now, I'm guessing it'd be even higher.
Loren Scott July 28, 2012 at 09:46 PM
Mike. The last part of my statement above reads my stance in general - "... I refuse to support bigotry or discrimination in any form". In the specific case of Chik-fil-A, the reason I will not support them is because of their admitted bigotry. And, you are correct that it is, unfortunately, not illegal to be a bigot. But, I do not have to give bigots my money, thus I chose not to.
Mike July 29, 2012 at 03:31 AM
Loren: First, you never answered my question. Please tell us how this guy is discriminating. As I said in my post, you have every right to boycott this company, however, again, you do not have the right to falsely accuse this company of discrimination. I really do not understand your responce to my post, quite frankly. All you do is state your position that you refuse to support bigotry or discrimination in any form. I support you in that, however, my post questioned how do you know this company discriminates against gay people. Again, you have not answered that. Also, bigotry, by definition is: "A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own or intolerant of people of different political views, ethnicity, race, class, religion, profession, sexuality or gender". You are just as guilty as this guy is.
Loren Scott July 29, 2012 at 06:07 AM
Mike, I *did* answer your question. Re-read my reply. Furthermore, if you feel it makes me a bigot (too) if I disagree with Chick-fil-A's bigotry, I am confused and amused. That is like telling someone that if they are intolerant of the views of the KKK it makes them a bigot too. Although, using your logic, I guess that's what you'd think too. I will put it in child-like terms to make it crystal clear to you. Chick-fil-A contributes millions of dollars annually to fund groups that do NOT support equality to all humans. Although that action is not illegal, I do not feel like supporting any person or organization that does that. So, I don't. If you do support that type of behavior, so be it. I simply do not agree with you. It is not important to me that you agree with me. It is only important that I can sleep at night knowing that I am not adding money to the coffers of a company that thinks that one class of humans should have any less rights than another. It is as simple as that. I have answered your question (twice now). To clarify another point, I am not boycotting Chick-fil-A because of its religious affiliation. They can call themselves Christians all they want and I have no problems with that. I have plenty of Christian friends who also happen to NOT be bigots and who happen to believe in more of a "God created all of us and loves us all equally" philosophy. That is fine. Bigotry in the name of one's religion is a cop out.
Mike July 29, 2012 at 10:11 PM
Loren, please get a dictionary and look up the word bigot. And then look in the mirror. Again, you are just as guitly of bigotry as this guy is. It's called intolerance and it works both ways. Here's the actual definition, again: "bigoted - blindly and obstinately attached to some creed or opinion and intolerant toward others; "a bigoted person"; "an outrageously bigoted point of view" intolerant - unwilling to tolerate difference of opinion" So, for those people out there that are intolerant of this guys view, this would make them a bigot. You may disagree with them, that is cool, however, please be careful about throwing bricks when you live in a glass house. And by the way, you have still yet to give any evidence of discrimination at all, as you accused them of. I have searched all over the internet and cannot find any. I think we all deserve to see the proof of your accusations. Let's make this easy: You disagree with this guy, I respect that. State that you disagree with him and do not make false accusations. Looking at some of your other posts, we actually agree on many things, however, people making false accusations is not acceptable in a public forum. That's all I'm saying.
Loren Scott July 30, 2012 at 12:57 AM
Mike, one of the reason I hate trying to have a rational discussion with theists, is that being rational is counter to their belief system. You keep asking why I accused them (Chik-fil-A) of discriminating and I keep telling you that I did not say that THEY were discriminating. I said that I will not support those who are bigots OR (key word "or") that discriminate. I also clarified that, in the case of Chik-fil-A, my reasons were due to their bigotry. Forgive me for not clarifying for you that this meant "and NOT due to discrimination". So, you have wasted enough of my time to clarify something that should not have required clarifying once, let alone multiple times. And, to nip this in the bud, I don't give a rats ass if you (and the dictionary) calls me a bigot for NOT supporting a business run by bigots. I *still* will not give them my money as it is my choice. And, to use your earlier argument, it is NOT illegal to be a bigot. So, I shall throw a stone in my own glass house if it means not giving Chick-fil-A my support. And, I will sleep just fine at night. There are plenty of people who agree with me. You don't have to.
Mike July 30, 2012 at 03:33 AM
Loren, I said all along that I support your right to boycott this company. I, however, do not support your right to slander them by saying they are bigots or that they discriminate. I have no christian agenda, as I said, I haven't been to church since the first Bush was President. I do however, have an issue with people that falsely accuse either people or companies of being bigots or of discrimination. It seems like it is ok for one side to do it, but not the other and that is a problem. And you can say all that you want, but you do accuse them of being bigots and of discrimination. Can't change that. Bottom line, he is entitled to his opinion, just as you are entitled to yours. That's what America is all about. Unfortunately, when someone slanders someone else and then is called out on it, it seems that only views such as yours are tolerated. As for sleeping at night, I do just fine, without resorting to foul language or without making false accusations.
Jeff K July 31, 2012 at 10:30 PM
Yes Mike, freedom of speech is the CEO's right.......and its our right to VOICE and SHOW our displeasure with a company that states its position. He spoke as a religious owner of a business. He is Chief Executive Officer who makes hiring and other decisions that affect peoples lives. I too will go to elsewhere.
Jeff K July 31, 2012 at 10:35 PM
So Cyclist, when did we make Christianity the official religion of America?? The Bible is not the official book either. The government is not allowed to take a religious side. Marriage is a civil right......just today a Federal Court found the DOMA Defense of Marriage Act, UNCONSTITUTIONAL, just as all social laws proposed by conservatives have been found as pure prejudice, hate and discrimination.
Jeff K July 31, 2012 at 10:36 PM
Tell me Angie, how gay marriage negatively affects your marriage, your neighbors marriage or your children's future??? I'd love to hear your reasoning..
Jeff K July 31, 2012 at 10:40 PM
Sounds like Cyclist is wrong and his conservative ideology is wrong and UNCONSTITUTIONAL AGAIN!!!! 7/31/12 A federal judge in Connecticut has ruled that part of a federal law that defines marriage as between a man and a woman and denies federal benefits to married gay couples is unconstitutional. U.S. District Judge Vanessa L. Bryant in Hartford ruled Tuesday that the provision in the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act violates the Fifth Amendment right to equal protection. The ruling came in the case of six married same-sex couples and a widower who sued after being denied federal benefits. The plaintiffs are from Connecticut, New Hampshire and Vermont.
Jeff K July 31, 2012 at 10:42 PM
Chick-fil-A's anti-gay marriage stance has gotten some high-profile support by way of Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum, Sarah Palin and other conservative lawmakers. But among their longtime customers, it's a much different story. Conservatism loses and loses and loses to the US Constitution and the US people.....LOL! Polling organization YouGov found that the Atlanta-based chain's brand approval ratings have plummeted in the wake of Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy's controversial remarks earlier this month. YouGov also reports that the company's overall consumer brand health among fast food eaters has dropped to its lowest levels since mid-August 2010 in the wake of the media firestorm. Just before Cathy's interview was published, Chick-fil-A's Index score was 65, well above the Top National Quick Service Restaurant (QSR) Sector average score of 46. Just four days later, however, Chick-fil-A's score had fallen to 47, while last week, the chain had a score of 39, compared to the Top National QSR Sector average score of 43.
ShaneS August 01, 2012 at 07:58 PM
Chik fil a in Murrieta, CA has a huge crowd of customers lined up around the block! Huge support for them having the courage to speak up for rights for all people to express their views. Thank God we live in a free country!!!
Demon Hunter August 02, 2012 at 01:53 AM
Wow, reading through these post, and someone stated that Hitler was a Christain.... That has got to be the most IGNORANT statement I have ever heard!!!! Hitler killed Christains because they were heavily against the third reich.... Don't make statements of you don't know the facts
Loren Scott August 02, 2012 at 04:17 AM
Demon Hunter -- Ummmm... it's ironic that you tell others not to make statements if they don't know the facts when you clearly do not know your history. From Wikipedia: For a time Hitler advocated positive Christianity, a militant, non-denominational form of Christianity which emphasized Christ as an active preacher, organizer, and fighter who opposed the institutionalized Judaism of his day. Positive Christianity purged or deemphasized the Jewish aspects of Christianity and was infused with aspects of nationalism and racial antisemitism. Hitler never directed his attacks on Jesus himself, whom Hitler regarded as an Aryan opponent of the Jews. Hitler viewed traditional Christianity as a corruption of the original ideas of Jesus by the Apostle Paul. In Mein Kampf Hitler writes that Jesus "made no secret of his attitude toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross." Also, Hitler not only killed Christians, Catholics, and Jews, but pretty much anyone who got in his way or attempted to hide Jews. He didn't care who they were. One thing is for certain, he did not kill "in the name of Atheism", as many have killed "in the name of [insert God of choice here]" -- for example, the Crusades.
Demon Hunter August 02, 2012 at 07:12 AM
Ummmm, yeah, you pretty much said it there... Just read what you wrote, he made his own religion.... Christain is not a label that you can give to yourself. I can call myself anything, but it doesn't make it true. So he murdered traditional Christains and made up his own jesus


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