Agreed!

I have a question. Has anyone looked into a lawsuit in the past or currently that these Cities are trying to block our ability to buy our medications, for suppliers to supply the location we buy it from, and are bottom line DENYING us our medications? Identification cards issued to us after a 2 foot stack of medical records is given to them, doctor's appts and perscriptions written by our doctors, any other medical records they wait for from another one of my doctors etc.
The City does NOT have the right to do this. So instead of leaving the co-op alone so we can get our medications, they harrass it and its customers on a daily basis(also demeaning and illegal).
If someone knows of a lawsuit in favor of the patients please let me know. In Private if you wish at Hotincal38@aol.com I am REALLY interested in just HOW the City thinks it is not civilally and criminally at fault for denying us our medications.

I am ANOTHER resident of the city of Murrieta (15 Years) who agrees 100% with LBV Collins. I am a professional, highly educated man who earned a Bachelor of Science with Honors, a Master of Arts Degree, and a Doctorate Degree from UC Riverside, and one who has unfortunately suffered from Osteo-Necrosis for 12 years.

I ONLY get relief from incessant pain and insomnia from legally obtained Medicinal Marijuana a SAFER and non-addictive alternative to Narcotic-Opiod analgesics. As and upstanding, tax-paying resident of Murrieta, I have the legal right to safe and un-harassed access to herbal medicine from LOCAL licensed dispensaries in MY CITY. I cannot drive due to my condition (as many others bed-ridden residents, I must use a taxi for transportation.

City Councel, PLEASE WAKE UP and smell the coffee (or in the case the Marijuana), and realize that the medicinal use of Marijuana is NEVER going to go away! You may delay it temporarily, but in-line with the majority of California Voters (Prop 215), STOP your unreasonable and compassion-less drive to deprive myself and others who need this alternative, homeo-pathic proven remedy for relief from the suffering and pain caused by a wide-range of serious medical conditions, which Medicinal Marijuana provides.

Thank you for contributing to the article Karl. This is the most senseless, costly fight I have ever in my 52 yrs seen anyone continue. I guess just for the sake of winning, otherwise why would they deprive any of us who NEED IT? Its cruel punishment to shut down the area business's so its easier for us to get to. Its cruel and costly to those same business's who go to so much cost and work to get open just to have a huge 100 man task force come in tear your place apart, walls, ceilings, fans, plants, everything apart, just to make a point that "law enforcement is bigger and stronger" and will keep following the rules of the City and County, State and closing your doors.

Very well put Karl and I hope we get some positive soon. Soon its not going to worth it for these people who open a co op to even bother wth it if the FBI, SHERIFF, City Police are going to go in with warrants once a month and a 100 to tow to tear apart their buiness operation, even walls, ceilings, display cases, plants, fans like they did this last bust. They had no reason to break and ruin all of that stuff other then to make a point of DO NOT OPEN again or we will do it AGAIN. Its horrible horrible what all of us are going through. I pray to God that all of these officials supporting these actions get just one of our diseases for a day, just ONE DAY to see what it is like. They let me see you get on the phone and call in 100 DEA to bust a co op business.

Hey Dude , and while you are about it deport the drunks and the hundereds thousands of Americans who drink and drive and kill others. Any don't forget to wave your Swastika Flag.

JJ, I will go along with deporting any drunks or stoners that kill people while behind the wheel of a car. After found guilty of course. We could probably pay that country half the cost it would for us to keep them here and it would be a fortune to that country right? Everyone is happy and we have more room in our jails for worser criminals. That is actually a good idea, yours is just said ahh....well.........

In reply to Brenda:

Are you insinuating that all stoners and drunk drivers are NON Americans.. Where do you live ? in La la land or are you a Republican ..

Remember in our country we murder 15,000+ citizens every year. And since 9/11 we have murdered 150,000+ citizens in our own country.

That is like having fifty 9/!! events happen since the original 9/!!. Except these murders were committed by U.S citizens since 9/11.

The things I really hate about our country the U.S. is our Hypocrisy , our Arrogance , our War mongering, tour GREED and our Racism.

Why do we behave like this. The U.S. is an invented country , an experiment in multi- cultures. Will it last another 300 years . Who the hell knows !. As betting man I say it won't.

Cannibal,
No, there is nothing in my 5 line comment that has anything to do about race, rellgion, NON Americans, or my neighbors kids leaving all their darn bikes in the street AGAIN! LOL.
I wish you, and others here, would take longer to read the posts Mr. Cannibal so that I am not the victim of your " Where do you live? In La La land or are you a Republican..." Statement
Everything else you typed out addressed to me isnt even about this subject, or to do with the title of the article, so not sure what the 4 remaining paragraphs are for.

We can start deporting bigots like yourself first!

the adults are not responsible...look at all the drunk drivers

I agree with that one JJ. I think drinking should be illegal except in the confines of your own home. Not at bars, winery's, dinner, nowhere except home.
That way it doesnt matter what your blood alcohol is, and its always murder 1 for a conviction, life in prison. Make it fast, simple, done with.
Because we know for DANG sure that drunks kill. Either driving, in fights, cops drunk with guns at bars etc.

Dude ,
Hypocrisy , arrogance, police control, and stupidity, are the new rules in the U.S.

Lets take the hypocrisy a step futher with signs

"Marijuana Store "....WHITES ONLY

"Soul Food Store".....BLACKS ONLY

"Taquelia Bar".....MEXICANS ONLY.

Should be OK in the Western World's most racist country the U.S.

Well you are right he is, regular silver tongued devil.
There is one type of Attorney, the one who defends for the paychecks. That is the smart one who doesnt matter who is right or wrong. Then he never gets an ethic's complaint against him either.

I think even all children know about non profit organizations and how they work from the ground up. Including where the money comes from and how it is distributed, and how much legally can be used for operating costs etc.

everyone wants to live in the western world so don't knock it galactic acid

Mmmm… No, Murrieta Resident, the wasters of tax payers’ money are those treating drug use as a crime. According to a report by the Cato Institute “…legalizing drugs would save roughly $41.3 billion per year in government expenditure on enforcement of prohibition,” and that “…drug legalization would yield tax revenue of $46.7 billion annually, assuming legal drugs were taxed at rates comparable to those on alcohol and tobacco.” [1]

That’s a shift of nearly $100 billion dollars *every year,* from a government expense to a taxable revenue.

1. http://www.cato.org/pubs/wtpapers/DrugProhibitionWP.pdf

make them smoke it at the police station

Until a law is changed one choosing to break a law is draining resources of those whose job it is to uphold the law.

Not bad advice, Murrieta Resident, working to change the laws.

But I’m trying to remember… when did we citizens have a chance to vote on these laws? To the best of my recollection, we never had the opportunity.

Heck, they’re not really “laws,” are they? They’re city codes created out of thin air and based on… what? Ignorance of Medical Marijuana’s benefits?

I fully appreciate your point, by the way, of actively working to change these codes. But it’s a shame that sick people who are truly suffering and whose doctors recommend that they use medical marijuana are denied safe access. Yep, it’s just wonderful that our City Council decided to ignore Prop 215 and circumvent democracy.

So, Murrieta Resident, I do plan to take action. Next opportunity I have, I’m voting out our current council members.

Jean, and LBV good information in laymans terms so I can grasp all of this from each persons statements.
Like the one simplist is "when did we citizens have a chance to vote on these laws? To the best of my recollection, we never had the opportunity".
This is the root of this problem, and most our problems. We have our minds made up for us when we are born and kept being made up for us so we do not have a clue how to stand up and change anything on our own. This is the simplest statement but the most accurate and our downfall in the USA, ourselves.
Does that make us just like any other group run by a person who wiped out his nation with bombs(pick a way)to take it over and to rule it? or someone who inherited it with a title? Or voted in by peers who get lied to?
The marijuana issue isnt even an issue, as someone said, it costs us so much just to MAKE it an issue for others getting paid to make it an even bigger issue.
Do pros/cons of Marijuana, and is there really a con?.
Unless it might effect the way you drive or use other machinery, maybe we can put that one on the con side? Resolution: Do not smoke and drive if it affects the way you drive. Says that on all my medications, that works.
Maybe I am just a simpleton and recognise how easy it is to keep things simple without all the fighting, negativity, as I see another high powered pain killer hit the perscription pads that make more Veggies out of us, some more then others.

LBV Collins though we have different views on some topics I appreciate your respectful replies and insight. My reply to the question "… when did we citizens have a chance to vote on these laws? To the best of my recollection, we never had the opportunity."

Our opportunity to vote was the vote for elected officials who have the power to direct resources and enforce laws within our city. It is not a perfect system to give a few power that effects many but it is the present system. As these people are elected by the people theoretically if the majority of people agree with their views thenn they stand a good chance of being elected. To my knowledge, and I may be wrong. I have not seen a city council candidate run with a platform to legalize marijuana in this city. I would be curious to see how such a candidate would do. Perhaps Jean or Galactic cannibal or yourself should consider running for City council. Then you will have the chance to vote amongst the council.

Jean, Perhaps you could help me with my facts.
The business license issue was reported in the Press Enterprise, the North County times, and the Murrieta Patch.
This is an excerpt from the NC Times
"City records show that in a May application for a business license, Burns marked that she intended to open a "property management" business. In a spot that asks whether said business would deal with drug sales or treatment, Burns marked "no," a copy of the application shows.
Burns was issued a business license for use of Suite 103 at 26690 Madison Ave. in June, according to city records.
However, code enforcement and police officers inspected the business and discovered the business was operating as a marijuana dispensary."
If this is a made up conspiracy where did you learn this and have there been retractions at any of these reporting agencies?

Fact #2 in dispute -- Is Murrieta above the Law?????
As far as state laws regarding distribution of marijuana, cities are granted the right to "regulate" dispensaries within city limits. The term regulate is highly subjective and certainly needs to be tightened down. As far as federal law Marijuana use is considered illegal and property used for illegal drug related purposes can be seized by federal agents. So is Murrieta above the law. I'd say no we are well within bounds.

Fact #3 Jean stated "City Council members and the Police need to work for their constituents! All of them!! just not a group of them! Apparently, it is ok to use your political powers to push your own private agendas and manipulate people?

City council members and officers are first mandated to uphold the law, I believe that includes federal, state, and city. No one person can possibly represent all people which it is why I suggest working very hard at the next election to get someone you identify with elected.

Fact #4 in dispute I'll just group these together you said "Take a listen on how your local City Council members interpret the laws and not just marijuana laws.You stand by stupidity I dont!"
How many city council meetings have you been to? I feel our council is pretty generous with their time and talents and do the best they can. I have only been to 2 city councils but I was impressed. I have also received responses in writing within 24 hours from the council anytime I have written with concerns. That is also impressive to me. So in this case I feel the statement that "I stand by stupidity" is a little juvenile.
In conclusion the issue to me is not about marijuana it is about obeying laws or not. We have conflicting laws at Federal, state, and city level. Until we align these there will be confusion and it is up to all of us to work towards a solution.

"Getting a warm feeling to my toes and a lopsided grin on my face was enough for me I guess."

Wow Brenda . you really did walk close to the edge...

But If you had strolled in the forests of Northern Calif at early morning and picked up a few shroms for your morning omelet. Or baked a few brownies using fresh BUDS, you would experience even warmer feeling in your toes . And possible a trip to planets beyond our planet earth.

BUDS and SHROOMS have existed long before our manufactured country was created.

How dare these stupid and moronic Murrieta Councilors make them illegal.

BUDS and SHROOMS will out life all of us. Get real people.!!

Now Mr. Cannibal,
I never said I did not try shrooms, or marijuana. The shrooms made me so out of it, it took our driver 12 hours to get us home from Big Bear to Orange County and no I do not remember sleeping, then spent a 2 hours trying to get into my house, because getting the keys out of my purse would have been too hard evidently. Don't know, don't remember anything except a roomate telling me I should get out of my 2 hour shower the water was cold, and the small black and white TV I had setting on the edge of the tub might fall in. ****cough***** never tried THAT again. Course with being young, we didnt know that eating a handful of about 20 of those would prolly do that to you. Marijuana I never got used to to drive or function over hours of laughing with tears running down my face wondering why everyone was bothering to talk if they couldnt finish a sentence. Hmm...thank god I never ended up on a planet I would probably still be stuck there. LOL I am 52 so I was only a baby hippy back then. But now with my slew of medical problems..........alternatives do exist that dont kill you like some of the meds I am on.

Election year politics im afraid. Don't be suckered :( Ill give anything you want just vote for me. One issue politics.

As for your comment
"everyone wants to live in the western world so don't knock it galactic acid"
That is totally off. The only people who want to live in the western world are the wretched ,who like the wretched what came to our country a couple hundred years ago.

I you travel on business in CHINA and India and Korea an I do . You will find their growing and massive middle class have no desire to live in the West. Their middle class have a combined combination that is 3 times our entire population..

And Corporate America and Corporate Europe are rushing headlong into those countries to make more profit at the cost of our middle class loosing jobs..